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#1 2009-03-08 12:58:42

kolcon
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problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

After the system was upgraded to qt-4.5.0, I cannot get certain
applications to work (skype, virtualbox, maybe others).

When I start them, the fonts look like this:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_WiWkiK738Q0/SbPA3 … 800/qt.png

Do you have any idea why or should I file a bug?
Thanks

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#2 2009-03-08 19:01:00

ChemBro
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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

Maybe you have to recompile your qt-applications, I think.

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#3 2009-03-08 20:08:41

kolcon
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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

rebuild virtualbox_bin, did not help

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#4 2009-03-08 23:51:17

chair
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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

Turn off 'Sub-pixel rendering.'

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#5 2009-03-09 10:59:31

kolcon
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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

Yes, that helped, thank you

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#6 2009-03-09 11:11:11

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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

chair wrote:

Turn off 'Sub-pixel rendering.'

Interesting surprise. Is there a bug report to follow?


To know or not to know ...
... the questions remain forever.

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#7 2009-03-09 11:13:27

kolcon
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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

bernarcher wrote:
chair wrote:

Turn off 'Sub-pixel rendering.'

Interesting surprise. Is there a bug report to follow?

No, should I open one? where? Arch or some upstream?

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#8 2009-03-09 13:18:41

chair
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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

I thought it would be an upstream bug, since KDE 4.2 isn't really supported with Qt 4.5.

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#9 2009-03-09 13:30:33

kolcon
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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

i do not have kde at all, but obviously it somehow sneaked in via the testing repository

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#10 2009-03-13 09:30:23

attila
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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

chair wrote:

Turn off 'Sub-pixel rendering.'

Is this a bug of qt or a new feature of qt that makes Sub-pixel rendering unnecessary? I'm a little bit surprised about that i have to turn off a feature which looks nice for me only  for some qt apps.

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#11 2009-03-13 09:45:04

Pierre
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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

Do you guys use by chance nvidia? Subpixelrendering works fine here.

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#12 2009-03-13 12:24:39

Prew
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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

Same problem here (nvidia drivers).

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#13 2009-03-13 12:32:13

Pierre
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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

Try the vesa or nv drivers.

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#14 2009-03-13 14:00:04

attila
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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

Pierre wrote:

Try the vesa or nv drivers.

Why the hell the nvidia drivers have so much problems with kde4/qt4.5 but not with qt3/qt4.4.3/kde3 ... sorry, this is nothing against you and your work but i'm a little bit frustated that the overvalue of the "newer" versions is getting lesser and lesser. sad But okay, i think positive and will step back to the qt version before. Thank you very much for this information.

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#15 2009-03-13 14:10:25

ziabice
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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

I have the same issue with an ATI HD4850, using the following drivers:

xf86-video-ati: good fonts
xf86-video-radeon: bad fonts
catalyst 9.2: bad fonts

Some time ago I used an early qt 4.5 snapshot with KDEmod on a NVIDIA card (with closed source drivers) and I had the same problem.

I suspect the X rendering acceleration for this issue.

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#16 2009-03-13 14:24:07

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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

Prew wrote:

Same problem here (nvidia drivers).

No issues here after upgrade to Qt4.5 with Nvidia 180.29 on KDEmod4.2.1

I did have some strange kded hanging after reboot...but after a full shutdown and reboot things are pretty much normal.  No font issues here-although some fonts in plasma widgets are monospace (I think) rather than what I have set...which was not the case before.

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#17 2009-03-13 14:41:01

Pierre
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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

attila wrote:
Pierre wrote:

Try the vesa or nv drivers.

Why the hell the nvidia drivers have so much problems with kde4/qt4.5 but not with qt3/qt4.4.3/kde3 ... sorry, this is nothing against you and your work but i'm a little bit frustated that the overvalue of the "newer" versions is getting lesser and lesser. sad But okay, i think positive and will step back to the qt version before. Thank you very much for this information.

Afaik the new Qt and KDE versions make more use of hardware accelerations. But I am quite sure its a problem with drivers/hw and not related to Qt. I have no problems on a 7800Gt, but I have seen rendering issues on a Geforce 6. Software configuration was identical.

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#18 2009-03-13 14:42:15

Pierre
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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

Skripka wrote:
Prew wrote:

Same problem here (nvidia drivers).

No issues here after upgrade to Qt4.5 with Nvidia 180.29 on KDEmod4.2.1

I did have some strange kded hanging after reboot...but after a full shutdown and reboot things are pretty much normal.  No font issues here-although some fonts in plasma widgets are monospace (I think) rather than what I have set...which was not the case before.

If you use kdemod you should wait until they updated their packages. Just give them any chance to do so. :-) It is known that a stock KDE 4.2 has problems with Qt 4.5.

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#19 2009-03-13 14:46:08

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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

Pierre wrote:
Skripka wrote:
Prew wrote:

Same problem here (nvidia drivers).

No issues here after upgrade to Qt4.5 with Nvidia 180.29 on KDEmod4.2.1

I did have some strange kded hanging after reboot...but after a full shutdown and reboot things are pretty much normal.  No font issues here-although some fonts in plasma widgets are monospace (I think) rather than what I have set...which was not the case before.

If you use kdemod you should wait until they updated their packages. Just give them any chance to do so. :-) It is known that a stock KDE 4.2 has problems with Qt 4.5.

KDEmod just updated their stable repos to Qt4.5.0-3 yesterday.

If KDE4 has major issues with Qt4.5, I barely notice it.

Last edited by Skripka (2009-03-13 14:47:01)

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#20 2009-03-13 14:54:05

Pierre
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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

No they did not. That's why I said you better wait. There are no major issues though; e.g. problems with utf8 filenames or broken lancelot.

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#21 2009-03-13 15:06:42

Skripka
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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

Pierre wrote:

No they did not. That's why I said you better wait.

Wierd...I have KDEmod stable x86_64 on my box, and upgraded last night (US time), with Qt4.5.0-3 and a few other things. (????)

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#22 2009-03-13 16:04:30

Pierre
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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

Qt is not part of kdemod, its from extra. But I think we are goinf off-topic here. :-)

So, if you have rendering problems:
Try other drivers (free ones or even vesa)
Play with XAA, EXA or UXA options
The subpixel issue is interesting. How did you guyes enable it? Via KDE systemsettigns or /etc/fonts? Which fonts do you use? Do those gliteches appear everytime or randomly?

Last edited by Pierre (2009-03-13 16:13:21)

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#23 2009-03-13 16:50:32

attila
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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

Pierre wrote:

Afaik the new Qt and KDE versions make more use of hardware accelerations. But I am quite sure its a problem with drivers/hw and not related to Qt. I have no problems on a 7800Gt, but I have seen rendering issues on a Geforce 6. Software configuration was identical.

There be 2 points about it:

1. Ironical: If the price for the use of hardware acceleration in KDE/Qt is to use the vesa or the unaccelerated nv driver than the developper have spent their time for nothing. smile

2. I believe you that different hardware with the same config operates in another way but we speak about bad fonts output and this has to work for all drivers (xorg, nvidia and ati) as before. If not this is the problem of the follower from Qt and not of the unchanged rest of the system. But this be only my 2c and as you i don't want to get too much off topic.

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#24 2009-03-13 18:35:46

Kariddi
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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

QT4.5 broke Animated GIFs and PNGs in KHTML sad

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#25 2009-03-13 20:41:28

Prew
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Re: problem after upgrade to Qt-4.5.0

Pierre wrote:

Try the vesa or nv drivers.

The problem occurs also on vesa and nv drivers.
Everything is OK on a new created account.
I disable subpixel via systemsettings.

EDIT: Problem solved by removing ~/.fonts.conf

Last edited by Prew (2009-03-13 21:01:35)

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