request: use parted in installer

Chiefcooker · 2009-03-10 15:03:49

parted is much better, supports for example gpt, so why u dont use it in installer?

regards chief

pyther · 2009-03-10 15:18:05

Because cfdisk is much better, for example it is easier to use.

mike_93 · 2009-03-10 15:37:22

If you're not comfortable using cfdisk or whatever, do the partitioning beforehand, so that when you run the installer you just choose the right partitions and install. It worked for me

Mr.Elendig · 2009-03-10 16:44:55

Feature requests are generally better to do here: http://bugs.archlinux.org/

But on the topic. Nothing is stopping _you_ from using parted during the install. Just set up the partions with parted before you start the installer. And as mentioned, cfdisk does a good job for most people, and are easer to use.

.:B:. · 2009-03-10 19:33:23

Frankly, if i need resizing or cloning, I run the gparted live CD. If I want to install, i use the Arch installation CD.

There is no need to integrate that stuff into the installer. Get Gparted, it's a measle 30 MB, and an ISO ready to burn and boot.

thisperishedmin · 2009-03-10 20:45:55

Many people are comfortable with cfdisk, and it works nicely with the KISS philosophy Arch uses.

Simple and lightweight tools are best suited for the Arch installer for this reason alone. (the KISS prinicple...)

it is worth putting in a feature request, but you will probably receive very much of the same answer provided here

Ranguvar · 2009-03-10 21:04:20

I say it's fine how it is, because if you're willing/need to use parted to partition your disk, you should be able to mkfs and all yourself and just select mount points with the Arch installer

vogt · 2009-03-11 01:36:34

B wrote:

Frankly, if i need resizing or cloning, I run the gparted live CD. If I want to install, i use the Arch installation CD.
There is no need to integrate that stuff into the installer. Get Gparted, it's a measle 30 MB, and an ISO ready to burn and boot.

On more recent arch installation cds, the system is a livecd, and pacman is installed: you can easily install parted, xorg, gparted etc. from there.

ljshap · 2009-03-11 02:54:47

Doesn't gparted require 'X' and gtk.
Besides the arch installer is great as it is, fast, clean and no potential xorg problems.

Edit

Sorry, I was thinking of Gparted, not parted.
Nothing wrong with cfdisk, although fdisk might be another matter.

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djseomun · 2009-03-11 17:01:07

ljshap wrote:

Nothing wrong with cfdisk, although fdisk might be another matter.

I agree. cfdisk is quite easy to use. I didn't get comfortable with fdisk until my fourth install of OpenBSD.

Dieter@be · 2009-03-11 18:10:44

1) no X on the install images by default. period. KISS

2) I'm always interested in proposals to improve the quality of our installer. Some of the arguments above like "installer should not have program foo. use program foo yourself before launching the installer" are good if we deliberately don't want foo in our installer, but the better I/we (installer developers) can make the installer, the more I'm satisfied. (as long as it's not a too time consuming job and sticks to rule #1). So if you want to propose a feature, please do. Your best bet in subscribing to the arch-releng mailing list and mailing it to us. There are tens of people there with knowledge about the installer and related tools that should be leveraged. I personally am not familiar with all (cli) partitioning tools out there, but if you post to the ML a discussion will arise which will be at least interesting and may lead to a better installer for all of us.

Last edited by Dieter@be (2009-03-11 18:12:22)

.:B:. · 2009-03-11 20:49:14

vogt wrote:

B wrote:
Frankly, if i need resizing or cloning, I run the gparted live CD. If I want to install, i use the Arch installation CD.
There is no need to integrate that stuff into the installer. Get Gparted, it's a measle 30 MB, and an ISO ready to burn and boot.
On more recent arch installation cds, the system is a livecd, and pacman is installed: you can easily install parted, xorg, gparted etc. from there.

Any Linux installation CD is a live CD by definition. I don't know about the pacman stuff thouigh, but the pacman binary on the live CD is a statically compiled one if I'm correct, and it has been around for quite a while too. I don't know if you can install onto the install CD.

Allan · 2009-03-11 21:00:16

B wrote:

he pacman binary on the live CD is a statically compiled one if I'm correct

We don't distribute a statically compiled pacman any more as it was never that static anyway (Dan convinced me to test removing glibc to prove it... that was fun!).

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