[SOLVED!] Cannot select internal/external mounts .......

mythus · 2009-03-10 18:35:44

Greetings,

After being away doing some distro-hopping, I drifted back over to arch. Now I managed to work through many problems such as getting keyboard and mouse support without disabling hotplugging, and all of that, and am enjoying using ext4.

However there are two issues that I can't seem to overcome, and would greatly appreciate any help I can get in overcoming them...

1.) I cannot select internal mounts or usb cards or cd's, etc..

Basically I was trying to be able to mount/access my NTFS partition. At first I was getting that pesky "you can't do this, policy says no" error so I dug through wiki articles and forum posts. After following them (including doing computer restarts) I could not select either my ntfs partition or my mounted dvd disk. Basically what would happen is I would try to select it but my selection would bounce back to my home folder. No errors or nothing. It's like there is an invisible rubber force field preventing me from even thinking about touching those drives.

Now I have tried everything I can think of. I have removed everything I have done when following the wiki to get to a pre-trying to mount ntfs stage. Problem remains. I have dug through the wiki and countless forum posts trying out everything that looks feasible to my problem. Problem remains. I am now on day two, several advil later, and tired of hearing my computer laugh at me.... I really don't want to go through the whole reinstall trip... I already spent a lot of work before trying to mount my ntfs drive getting my computer just how I want it. So any help in fixing this without a reinstall would be most appreciative. I will admit that I am tired of digging through the wiki, so if you must point me back to it, please kindly clarify what I may have missed instead of saying "read this" because 9 out of 10, I have read it and it hasn't helped.

2.) How do I get wicd to auto start?

Ok so I have installed wicd as my network manager. I followed the wiki to the T and it works great. However every time I restart (which I did a lot of trying to fix problem #1) I would end up having to restart the hal and wicd deamons then start up wicd again... So how do I get wicd to autostart?

Thanks in advance for any and all help on these two issues. If I posted in the wrong area, please forgive me. However I feel that these are newbie questions...

Last edited by mythus (2009-03-12 18:49:33)

Lone_Wolf · 2009-03-10 20:37:19

Q1 :
In which WM/DE and program are you trying to access those devices ?
Please post your /etc/fstab .

Q2:
Please post your rc.conf

mythus · 2009-03-10 20:49:31

Greetings,

I am using KDEMod current (i.e. KDE 4.2.1). I installed the Arch way, not the chakra tribe method, though I did test tribe earlier, it's neat.. just not as hands on...

I tried accessing with dophin. I would have tried with konqueror but as I recall konqueror now uses dolphin as kpart for file management so the results should be the same...

Anyways,

Here's my fstab...

#
# /etc/fstab: static file system information
#
# <file system> <dir> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
none /dev/pts devpts defaults 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
#/dev/cdrom /media/cd auto ro,user,noauto,unhide 0 0
#/dev/dvd /media/dvd auto ro,user,noauto,unhide 0 0
#/dev/fd0 /media/fl auto user,noauto 0 0
UUID=5f4a5905-886b-4985-a383-f8bd4bb990f7 / ext4 defaults 0 1
UUID=abb1dfe2-a2c8-4892-82cf-38e6cf50dee9 /home ext4 defaults 0 1
UUID=eabea9d9-d15d-48e0-993e-212d162823d9 swap swap defaults 0 0

You should notice that I didn't add my ntfs partion to fstab as I read somewhere that with hot plugging you weren't supposed to...

Here's my rc.conf - daemons

# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# DAEMONS
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# Daemons to start at boot-up (in this order)
# - prefix a daemon with a ! to disable it
# - prefix a daemon with a @ to start it up in the background
#
DAEMONS=(syslog-ng !network wicd netfs crond alsa hal kdm)

If you need the rest of my rc.conf, let me know. However I believe that only the daemons should matter with wicd...

And btw- thanks for your reply.

EVRAMP · 2009-03-10 20:54:26

For wicd, you must have interfaces commented out and disabled like this:
#eth0="dhcp"
#wlan0="dhcp"
INTERFACES=(!eth0 !wlan0)

Lone_Wolf · 2009-03-10 21:04:13

Ntfs mounting :
hotplugging NTFS requires a custom hal policy, and they can be tricky.
The fstab option is more straightforward, specially with ntfs partitions on internal drives .

Wiki page on NTFS_Write_Support worked great for a friend of mine who dualboots.

Wicd autostart : The order of the daemons is wrong, dbus/hal needs to be started before wicd.

mythus · 2009-03-10 21:54:22

Greetings,

Thanks for your replies!

EVRAMP: I had the Interfaces uncommented (the !eth thing) but never did the #eth0="dhcp thing. I must have missed that, so thanks!

Lone_Wolf: Ok I changed the order of the deamons placing hal in front of wicd. Is there anything else I need to do for that?

Also I will go ahead and do the fstab option. It is what I used to use before the new xorg and hotplugging so I am familar with it but assumed that the hotplugging was the new way to go. Is there anything I need to do to get back my mounts (not only the ntfs partition but also so I can select and mount my drives, usb devices, etc..)?

mythus · 2009-03-10 22:28:00

UPDATE

Wicd now starts up on it's on so problem 2 is solved! Thanks!

Problem 1 is still present. I have added my ntfs to fstab and have succesfully mounted it using command line. However in dolphin I cannot select either the ntfs partition or any mounted cd/dvd/usb drive... It bounces away from it refusing to select those locations.... I even removed the # in front of my cd drives in fstab, still no go...

Lone_Wolf · 2009-03-10 22:36:50

Try accessing the devices through their mount points.

(The cd/dvd/usb devices are normally found under /media/ )

If that works, we know that the KDE mounting works.

mythus · 2009-03-10 22:47:13

Greetings,

It works that way. It appears that the problem only lies in the places menu in dolphin. But going to the /media/cd lets me into my mounted dvd and /mnt/windows lets me into my ntfs partition. Just can't select them via places...

Also I noticed they weren't auto-mounted, had to mount them via commandline first. But that is a simple fstab edit if I want automount.

Now just to get the places menu thing fixed and I'll be all good with this issue.

Lone_Wolf · 2009-03-11 21:07:28

I suspected something like that. My friend uses the arch stock kde 4.2.1 and has no problems with places in dolphin.
(I use arch kde 4.2.1 also, but have Krusader as filemanager).

For the dolphin places problem we can' t help you further, you should try the kdemod forum for that.

mythus · 2009-03-12 18:48:55

Yeah somehow it looks like I had borked dolphin's place menu when trying to use the whole policies approach. I ended up biting the bullet and doing a fresh install yesterday (getting quite good at it now, my 5th or 6th install lol). I left the hot plugging on but took the fstab approach for the ntfs partition. Works good. ANd the places menu works now!

Thanks for your help though!

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