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#1 2009-02-03 08:02:45

CoolGenie
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Intel HDA problems

Hello,
Maybe this is not an ArchLinux issue, but still maybe someone could help me. I have an Intel HDA sound card and no sound whatsoever. I've tried many things but still can't get it to work. I can't remember, but I think the sound worked with kernel 2.6.27 (I'm not 100% sure, this is a new computer).
Here's the output of aplay -l:

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: STAC92xx Digital [STAC92xx Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 3: NVIDIA HDMI [NVIDIA HDMI]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: pcsp [pcsp], device 0: pcspeaker [pcsp]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

and aplay -L

default:CARD=Intel
    HDA Intel, STAC92xx Analog
    Default Audio Device
front:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
    HDA Intel, STAC92xx Analog
    Front speakers
surround40:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
    HDA Intel, STAC92xx Analog
    4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
    HDA Intel, STAC92xx Analog
    4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
    HDA Intel, STAC92xx Analog
    5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
    HDA Intel, STAC92xx Analog
    5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
    HDA Intel, STAC92xx Analog
    7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
null
    Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)

In modprobe.d/sound I have

alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel
options snd-hda-intel model=ref

I've compiled and installed the most recent alsa-driver package, ver. 1.0.19 but with no changes.

I'll appreciate any help.

Thanks in advance,
Przemek

Last edited by CoolGenie (2009-02-03 18:32:31)

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#2 2009-02-03 08:10:21

Zeist
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Re: Intel HDA problems

I'm just going to state the obvious things that it could be, so I know there's a great chance that you've tried them:

1. Ensure that you don't have any channels used muted in the mixer
2. Make sure that the user trying to play audio is in the group audio.

Do you get any error messages when trying to play audio?

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#3 2009-02-03 09:01:16

CoolGenie
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Re: Intel HDA problems

I've unmuted channels and mostly I test sound as root, so there should be no problem.
Also, I don't get any error messages, mplayer seems to work just as always. aplay also doesn't show any errors.

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#4 2009-02-03 13:28:57

Berseker
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Registered: 2008-04-24
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Re: Intel HDA problems

options snd-hda-intel model=ref

try to change from "ref" to "auto" and reboot

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#5 2009-02-03 18:31:30

CoolGenie
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Re: Intel HDA problems

Berseker wrote:

try to change from "ref" to "auto" and reboot

nope, doesn't work sad

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#6 2009-02-04 15:21:18

The_ouroboros
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Registered: 2007-05-28
Posts: 140

Re: Intel HDA problems

same problem here....
News?


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#7 2009-02-04 16:26:28

gluni
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Re: Intel HDA problems

I seem to have the same problem on amd64. I used the chakra / kdemod livecd as installer. maybe thats a hint to someone...

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#8 2009-02-06 16:21:53

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Re: Intel HDA problems

it's so frustrating...I tried all that I could... and still... no sound!!!!!!


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#9 2009-02-06 17:20:17

CoolGenie
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Re: Intel HDA problems

Maybe it's the drivers in the kernel...

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#10 2009-02-06 18:37:41

The_ouroboros
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Registered: 2007-05-28
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Re: Intel HDA problems

using oss may solve the problem?
And are they usable with kde4 and vlc?


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#11 2009-02-06 19:37:49

ptodorov
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Re: Intel HDA problems

Please check the output of:

cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 | grep Codec

and

cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#1 | grep Codec

Then, check http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p= … ostcount=1 for list of know models of HDA Intel and then try adding the appropriate option for your model

options snd-hda-intel model=xxxxx

at the end of the file /etc/modprobe.conf and then restart.

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#12 2009-02-06 22:59:27

The_ouroboros
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Posts: 140

Re: Intel HDA problems

id doesn't work!
I even set options snd_pcsp index=2 ...

Last edited by The_ouroboros (2009-02-06 23:06:47)


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#13 2009-02-07 09:06:53

CoolGenie
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Re: Intel HDA problems

My codecs are:
Codec: IDT 92HD71B7X
for codec#0 and
Codec: Nvidia MCP78 HDMI
for codec#2.
These are not listed. on the website. I've tried this modprobe.d/sound

alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel
options snd-pcsp index=2
options snd-hda-intel model=hp-m4 enable-msi=1

but with no luck. Also, I've read that sometimes the headphones may work (mine dont wink ) -- this might be of help to other people.
I've reported this issue to the alsa-project community.

Przemek

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#14 2009-02-07 09:38:52

gluni
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Re: Intel HDA problems

hey guys,

i found a solution for my pc.
instead of adding a line into /etc/modprobe.d/sound i created a file named /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base and put the line mentioned above inside: "options snd-hda-intel model=3stack".

worked for me...

Last edited by gluni (2009-02-07 10:58:17)

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#15 2009-02-07 10:29:27

The_ouroboros
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Re: Intel HDA problems

same problem..


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#16 2009-02-07 15:01:06

Roberth
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Re: Intel HDA problems

OSS is much better I hear for these chipsets.


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#17 2009-02-20 12:31:22

caratorn
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Registered: 2009-02-20
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Re: Intel HDA problems

I had the same problem because snd-pcsp would be used by default.

Adding this :

MODULES=(... !snd-pcsp ...)

in /etc/rc.conf and rebooting did solve the problem for me.

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#18 2009-02-20 13:41:53

CoolGenie
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Re: Intel HDA problems

Nope, this doesn't work for me... roll

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#19 2009-02-20 13:47:43

doum
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Re: Intel HDA problems

I had the same problem (but ALC268 for me)
I just find how to resolv it

model=toshiba did nothing.
I had to add position_fix=0 :

options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba position_fix=0

I found with OpenSuse live CD. No sound at boot too, but a GUI which proposed this option. When I set to 0 sound appeared

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#20 2009-02-23 17:50:33

Element 22
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Re: Intel HDA problems

I was having the same problem a couple days ago. I got ALSA working and then it stopped working. I know it's going to sound fustrating, but you might have to do what I did:

Go back to the wiki a do everything again, one step at a time. It took me two hours to get it working, but it finally started working again. Also avoid alsa-conf, it seemed to break something when I tried that so I did everything again manually. And remember to save the mixer settings big_smile

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#21 2009-02-24 16:27:27

cjpembo
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Re: Intel HDA problems

You need to work with the alsa developers to get your cards supported.  See here:

http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index. … _Intel_HDA

A little effort and your alsa troubles could be fixed permanently going forward.

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#22 2009-03-06 07:03:30

CoolGenie
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Posts: 56

Re: Intel HDA problems

OK, I've found a solution. Check that all your analog loop backs are OFF.

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#23 2009-03-06 22:50:51

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Re: Intel HDA problems

I found two tools that may helping a lot:

asoundconf/asoundconf-gtk
http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23382

Find your card name:

asoundconf is-active
asoundconf list

it will show you some like that:

$ asoundconf list
Names of available sound cards:
NVidia
pcsp

start asoundconf-gtk and choose your card :
default-sound-card.png
This will create a full functional

.asoundrc

and a

.asoundrc.asoundconf

file under your home/'user' directory..

Second one i do not know realy what you can do with it but it is a low level confoguration tool for intel_HDA soundchips:

HDA Analyzer

This tool allows change the HDA codec setting using direct hardware access
bypassing driver's mixer layer.

the Python script can be found here:
http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa.git … py;hb=HEAD

run it by:

py hda-analyzer-run.py

it will give you some cryptic tool:

HDAAnalyzer.png

If someone can tell me what this tool will do for me im happy wink


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#24 2009-03-20 04:02:04

s3kt0r
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Posts: 208

Re: Intel HDA problems

Well hello, I guess I should say I'm relatively new to Arch, this is my second install (don't really know what went wrong the first time roll ), but now I have a nice, fresh and fast system, with only the stuff I want and need. Aleluia brothers! I'm pretty happy with it smile Feels even more free.

I also happen to have the Intel HDA audio controller, and it functions perfectly. I just followed the wiki on the alsa section with:

pacman -Sy alsa-libs alsa-utils
pacman -S alsa-oss

...added !snd_pcsp to the Modules section in /etc/rc.conf.. I had already added my user to the audio group, all that's left is to save alsa settings.

That's all I did to get sound working. I installed through a core iso, 2009.02.

lspci output:
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)

Maybe this is what CoolGenie was talking about (it's on the wiki):

There may be an issue with two conflicting modules loaded, namely snd_intel8x0 and snd_intel8x0m. In this case, edit rc.conf and in the MODULES array blacklist the latter one so that it reads !snd_intel8x0m afterwards.
Muting the "External Amplifier" in alsamixer or amixer may also help.


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