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#1 2009-03-22 19:22:37

markp1989
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i cannot run any gtk apps.

when i try to run any gtk apps, it doesnt work.

if i try to run fbpanel or nvidia-settings i get

error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: file to short

if i try to run firefox it doesnt do anything.

what im a missnig?

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#2 2009-03-22 19:27:15

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Re: i cannot run any gtk apps.

Stupid question but, have you installed GTK?


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#3 2009-03-22 19:48:41

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Re: i cannot run any gtk apps.

or gtk2


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#4 2009-03-22 20:54:05

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Re: i cannot run any gtk apps.

Did you stumble over http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/11639 ?
Anything in dmesg that might give a hint about disk or filesystem corruption?


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#5 2009-03-22 21:16:56

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Re: i cannot run any gtk apps.

byte wrote:

Did you stumble over http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/11639 ?
Anything in dmesg that might give a hint about disk or filesystem corruption?

the end result seems similar, i just wiped my install to give ext4 a go.

after i installed, i was installing xorg and other essentials, and they claimed thery were installed, if i removed them it would leave the 0 bit sized files behind, then it would refuze to install if they were still there. i tried removing the 0byte files maualy, then pacman wouldnt run.

this is rather worying, as i thought that ext4 was considerd stable now.


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#6 2009-03-22 21:19:28

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Re: i cannot run any gtk apps.

Compared to ext3, Reiserfs, JFS, XFS, en even reiser4, ext4 is still brand new. It being in the mainline tree might give some people the impression it *is* stable but as a file system it's still rather young. Imho, when it comes to filesystems, the conservative approach is the right one - unless your data isn't that important.


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#7 2009-03-22 21:30:11

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Re: i cannot run any gtk apps.

B wrote:

Compared to ext3, Reiserfs, JFS, XFS, en even reiser4, ext4 is still brand new. It being in the mainline tree might give some people the impression it *is* stable but as a file system it's still rather young. Imho, when it comes to filesystems, the conservative approach is the right one - unless your data isn't that important.

i had only converted my home, and root, where i dont store data, i left my data drives as ext3 or 2 still.


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#8 2009-03-22 21:55:35

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Re: i cannot run any gtk apps.

this is from wikipedia. this is what i think caused the problem.

i installed xorg. and started X and the computer locked up because i forgot to disable hotplug. so i had to do a hard power off.

and as described bellow, the files probably didnt get writen to the disk.

Delayed allocation may expose application bugs

The delayed allocation poses some additional risk of data loss in cases where the system crashes before all data has been written to the disk.

The typical scenario is a program that replaces the content of a file, without forcing a write to the disk with fsync. If the system crashes shortly afterwards, it is really undefined what is supposed to happen. However, users have come to expect that the disk holds either the old version or the new version of the file, a behaviour that ext3 would usually yield. Whereas the ext4 code in kernel 2.6.28 will often have truncated the file to zero length before the crash, but not yet written the new version, so that the contents of the file is lost.

Though this is really an application bug, many people still find it unacceptable. In response, Theodore Ts'o has written some patches for ext4 that causes it to limit its delayed allocation in these common cases. For a small cost in performance, this will significantly increase the chance that a version of the file survives the crash.

The new patches are expected to become part of the mainline kernel 2.6.30. Various distributions may choose to backport them to 2.6.28 or 2.6.29, for instance Ubuntu intends to make them part of the 2.6.28 kernel in Jaunty.[9]


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#9 2009-03-22 22:17:31

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Re: i cannot run any gtk apps.

Here's a lot more of the story from Theodore Ts'o:

http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2009/03/12/ … e-problem/

I don't want this thread turn into another ext4 discussion on this subject; There are a bunch of them ongoing here. markp1989, were you able to get your system working again?

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#10 2009-03-23 18:06:53

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Re: i cannot run any gtk apps.

skottish wrote:

Here's a lot more of the story from Theodore Ts'o:

http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2009/03/12/ … e-problem/

I don't want this thread turn into another ext4 discussion on this subject; There are a bunch of them ongoing here. markp1989, were you able to get your system working again?

im up and running with ext4, i decided to just wipe and start fresh, considering it was an almost new instalation, it was quicker just to go back to square one.


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