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#1 2008-12-29 00:35:00

Misfit138
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Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

This new subforum is dedicated to users of the [testing] repo exclusively.
Note that all bugs must still be directed to the respective bugtracker, but please feel free to discuss any observations, issues and solutions thereof, unique to use of the [testing] repo, here.

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#2 2008-12-29 00:41:29

fwojciec
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Re: Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

Good idea -- hopefully this will encourage more users to use [testing].

Last edited by fwojciec (2008-12-29 00:44:10)

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#3 2008-12-29 00:52:57

xaiviax
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Re: Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

Sweet, it does encourage me...

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#4 2008-12-29 01:26:51

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Re: Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

I like.


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#5 2008-12-29 10:07:49

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Re: Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

this is a nice approce for making people to test packages more. it made me update to testing and i found several bugs.


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#6 2008-12-29 22:00:16

jelly
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Re: Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

Maybe i will use virtualbox to the [testing] tongue, would be ideal for testing kde4

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#7 2008-12-30 15:28:24

Shaika-Dzari
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Re: Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

Cool idea! big_smile

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#8 2008-12-30 23:19:04

jealma
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Re: Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

I would like a solution to view important messages and announcements concerning [testing], besides the mailinglist. All stuff in the mailinglists about repository maintainance are not really necessary for me and it is very hard to filter out important information if you use [testing]. A dedicated archlinux.org/testing page with news items, important information, warnings and the like would be very much appreciated. These news items could, for example, announce that kernel26-2.6.28 has hit [testing], that xorg-server-1.6 was added, which problems there still are, common errors that occur (including workarounds, if exist), maybe with rss feed.

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#9 2009-01-03 14:56:21

shining
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Re: Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

jealma wrote:

I would like a solution to view important messages and announcements concerning [testing], besides the mailinglist. All stuff in the mailinglists about repository maintainance are not really necessary for me and it is very hard to filter out important information if you use [testing]. A dedicated archlinux.org/testing page with news items, important information, warnings and the like would be very much appreciated. These news items could, for example, announce that kernel26-2.6.28 has hit [testing], that xorg-server-1.6 was added, which problems there still are, common errors that occur (including workarounds, if exist), maybe with rss feed.

The goal of testing is actually to help the developers for preparing the move to core/extra by :
* finding bugs and helping to fix them
* finding out if there is any important information users should be aware about

So the important messages and announcements are already provided for users of core/extra, and the testing repo actually helps a lot to prepare them...


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#10 2009-01-03 15:06:02

toofishes
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Re: Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

jealma wrote:

I would like a solution to view important messages and announcements concerning [testing], besides the mailinglist. All stuff in the mailinglists about repository maintainance are not really necessary for me and it is very hard to filter out important information if you use [testing]. A dedicated archlinux.org/testing page with news items, important information, warnings and the like would be very much appreciated. These news items could, for example, announce that kernel26-2.6.28 has hit [testing], that xorg-server-1.6 was added, which problems there still are, common errors that occur (including workarounds, if exist), maybe with rss feed.

shining covered the latter half of your questions, but I thought I would address it a bit as well. We no longer send repository maintenance messages to the arch-dev-public mailing list, so that is one less bit of stuff to read though. (If you want to be overwhelmed, signup for arch-commits.)

As shining said, developers can't form all these pretty news items and everything else until a package has gone through testing. Use of this repository is not for everyone, but if you are willing to follow along on the ML a bit you will rarely be surprised. I am comfortable for the most part running testing on two of my machines, and I haven't had a serious issue in almost a year.

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#11 2009-02-06 08:31:31

Paul-S
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Re: Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

I'd like to give testing a try, is it just a matter of enabling the testing repo? Or do I have to disable the other repos and use the testing one exclusively?

Cheers

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#12 2009-02-06 09:10:22

schuay
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Re: Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

Paul-S wrote:

I'd like to give testing a try, is it just a matter of enabling the testing repo? Or do I have to disable the other repos and use the testing one exclusively?

Cheers

You only need to enable Testing, but make sure it comes before the other repos in pacman.conf.

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#13 2009-02-06 09:12:29

MetalheadGautham
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Re: Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

Paul-S wrote:

I'd like to give testing a try, is it just a matter of enabling the testing repo? Or do I have to disable the other repos and use the testing one exclusively?

Cheers

Place testing at top of other repos.
And be prepared for a lot more updates than normal.

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#14 2009-03-31 02:17:59

boogachamp
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Re: Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

I would like to help out and run using the testing repo, however I get the following error when I do an update:

error: could not prepare transaction
error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
xorg-server: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so exists in filesystem
xorg-server: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so exists in filesystem
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.

Any ideas?

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#15 2009-03-31 02:29:56

Allan
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#16 2009-03-31 11:43:53

boogachamp
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Re: Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

wow, and I even subscribe to that RSS feed tongue
Thanks though!

I resolved it by just re-naming those files and then doing the update...probably not the best approach but it worked for me.

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#17 2010-12-18 18:35:50

SiD
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Re: Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

MetalheadGautham wrote:
Paul-S wrote:

I'd like to give testing a try, is it just a matter of enabling the testing repo? Or do I have to disable the other repos and use the testing one exclusively?

Cheers

Place testing at top of other repos.
And be prepared for a lot more updates than normal.

If I do so and want to switch back to normal repos, is it enough to disable [testing] in pacman.conf and run "pacman -Syu" ?

Last edited by SiD (2010-12-18 18:36:22)

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#18 2010-12-18 18:46:47

SS4
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Re: Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

I believe

pacman -Syyuu

is better, iirc two u flags upgrade from current repos and yy will manually refresh the mirror to remove testing


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#19 2011-03-01 00:13:38

davidm
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Re: Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

xaiviax wrote:

Sweet, it does encourage me...

Same here. I decided to give it a go on a desktop and a laptop (both i686). Just finished grabbing testing/libjpeg-turbo and it seems to be working well thus far without any issues.

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#20 2011-03-01 15:23:20

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Re: Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

That sounds like the road to breakage to me. You do realise you need to use *all* of testing, not cherrypick?


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#21 2011-03-01 17:28:32

ANOKNUSA
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Re: Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

Been using [testing] for about three months now, without any serious issues to speak of.  After looking the first dozen posts here, though, this seems as good a place as any to stick this.

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#22 2012-02-18 15:59:18

Mr Green
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Re: Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

What is the deal with changes to udev and hooks? been reading about problems of users being dropped to reduced shell after updating.

Anything I should watch for when I update?


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#23 2012-02-19 14:54:17

ngoonee
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Re: Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

Mr Green wrote:

What is the deal with changes to udev and hooks? been reading about problems of users being dropped to reduced shell after updating.

Anything I should watch for when I update?

This is NOT a general-purpose 'ask any question about [testing]' thread.


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#24 2012-02-19 15:01:18

Mr Green
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Re: Welcome to the [testing] subforum!

It will not happen again


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