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I was wondering if I could use HAL instead of xorg. That is apparently how Ubuntu handles things now and it was what I am/was using.... and it is also automatic ;-)
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As far as I understand they are two totally seperate things. Quoted from the Wiki
"HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) is a daemon that allows desktop applications to readily access hardware information so that they can locate and use such hardware regardless of bus or device type. In this way a desktop GUI can present all resources to its user in a seamless and uniform manner. "
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HAL
Whereas Xorg
"Xorg is the public, open-source implementation of the X11 X Window System. (See the X.org Wikipedia Article or X.org for details.) Basically, if you want a GUI atop Arch, you will want xorg"
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg
So basicly I think (I am still completely new to Linux myself) You will use both Xorg provides the ability for you to run Gnome, Kde, Openbox etc. Whilst Hal allows components of your desktop GUI to see your hrdware.
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You can't use HAL 'instead' of Xorg. What the present Xorg version on Arch - just like on Ubuntu - does now is rely on HAL for configuration of devices. Xorg now does that by default from Xserver 1.5 on.
Read the Xorg entry on the Arch wiki for more clarity.
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Well I asked why my xorg.conf file was empty in the Ubuntu Forums and this is what I got http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1111813
Last edited by slughappy1 (2009-03-31 08:03:04)
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The change affects all distributions actually. If you want you can still use the full xorg.conf but the default way now is letting hal handle the devices, so yes you can use hal with an empty xorg.conf just check the hal wiki entry.
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Xorg uses hal to do input configuration instead of xorg.conf
Note the .conf there. Your topic says instead of xorg - different thing altogether.
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So I just need to follow http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HAL and not need mess with setting up xorg.conf? I am trying to configure a laptop and am not sure how to answer all the xorg.conf questions properly.
Sorry, I didn't realize I didn't put the .conf.
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Exactly, also you can "man xorg.conf" to understand more about x configuration.
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Thank you. I more meant I don't know certain specs on my computer. For example, horizontal and vertical refresh rates.
It works perfectly now, thanks.
Last edited by slughappy1 (2009-04-01 08:51:15)
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DL the user manual for your monitor, sync numbers for both vt and hz should both be listed somewhere. If you happen to own a SyncMaster 906cw: HorizSync 30.0 - 81.0, VertRefresh 56.0 - 75.0.
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A fairly safe bet for most lcd-screens are:
HorizSync 30 - 82
VertRefresh 50 - 75
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Leave out HS and VR, the display should tell X.org what values to use trough edid.
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