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so this is addressed a bunch of times on the board but i can't find what im doing wrong. that and its 1:30am and im tired of looking
sound was mostly working the first install of arch (then the harddrive died) and now i get
[root@MobileEvil will]# alsamixer
No mixer elems found
i had sound working for root.. and was trying to get it usable universily. i played with both udev and devfsd permision files.. eventually i rebooted
when the computer came to, i get the no mixer elems.. error regardless of the user
i noticed on reboot it says starting devfsd
i've installed with arch 7 base 2
i have no clue what im doing -- so i might put too much in below -- sorry
[root@MobileEvil will]# groups
root bin daemon sys adm disk wheel slocate audio
[will@09:29:09 ~]$ groups
wheel users slocate audio sound
[root@MobileEvil will]# cat /etc/group | grep -v "#"
root::0:root
bin::1:root,bin,daemon
daemon::2:root,bin,daemon
sys::3:root,bin
adm::4:root,daemon
tty::5:
disk::6:root
lp::7:daemon
mem::8:
kmem::9:
wheel::10:root,will
ftp::11:
mail::12:
smmsp::25:
nobody::99:
users::100:
slocate:x:101:will,root
audio:!:102:will,root
sound:!:103:will
[will@09:17:31 ~]$ echo | cat /etc/rc.conf | grep -v "#"
HARDWARECLOCK="localtime"
TIMEZONE=Canada/Pacific
KEYMAP=us
CONSOLEFONT=
USECOLOR="yes"
USELVM="no"
HOSTNAME="MobileEvil"
MODULES=(!usbserial !ide-scsi e1000 snd_intel8x0m snd-pcm-oss)
lo="lo 127.0.0.1"
eth0="dhcp"
INTERFACES=(lo eth0)
gateway="default gw 192.168.0.1"
ROUTES=(!gateway)
DAEMONS=(syslog-ng hotplug !pcmcia network netfs crond cups alsamixer)
[will@09:15:57 ~]$ cat /etc/devfsd.conf | grep -v "#"
REGISTER .* MKOLDCOMPAT
UNREGISTER .* RMOLDCOMPAT
REGISTER ^sound/.* PERMISSIONS root.audio 660
REGISTER ^snd/.* PERMISSIONS root.audio 660
REGISTER ^cdroms/.* PERMISSIONS root.optical 660
REGISTER .* MKNEWCOMPAT
UNREGISTER .* RMNEWCOMPAT
LOOKUP .* MODLOAD
REGISTER ^input/mouse0$ CFUNCTION GLOBAL mksymlink $devname usbmouse
UNREGISTER ^input/mouse0$ CFUNCTION GLOBAL unlink usbmouse
REGISTER ^input/mice$ CFUNCTION GLOBAL mksymlink $devname usbmouse
UNREGISTER ^input/mice$ CFUNCTION GLOBAL unlink usbmouse
[will@09:16:07 ~]$ lsmod
Module Size Used by
lp 11784 0
parport 42312 1 lp
ohci_hcd 22660 0
hci_usb 11904 0
bluetooth 50820 1 hci_usb
snd_intel8x0 36428 1
gameport 5120 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_mpu401_uart 8704 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_rawmidi 26276 1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device 8456 1 snd_rawmidi
usblp 13696 0
ehci_hcd 31748 0
uhci_hcd 33680 0
shpchp 101252 0
pci_hotplug 13060 1 shpchp
tsdev 8128 0
joydev 10432 0
evdev 9984 0
snd_pcm_oss 56488 0
snd_mixer_oss 21376 3 snd_pcm_oss
snd_intel8x0m 19400 1
snd_ac97_codec 73808 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_intel8x0m
snd_pcm 101508 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0m
snd_timer 27140 1 snd_pcm
snd 58980 10 snd_intel8x0,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_intel8x0m,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore 10848 3 snd
snd_page_alloc 10248 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_intel8x0m,snd_pcm
e1000 88836 0
rtc 13128 0
part from /etc/udev/permissions.d/udev.permissions
fd[01]*:root:root:0660
dsp*:root:audio:0660
audio*:root:audio:0660
midi*:root:audio:0660
mixer*:root:audio:0660
sequencer*:root:audio:0660
sound/*:root:audio:0660
snd/*:root:audio:0660
beep:root:audio:0660
admm*:root:audio:0660
adsp*:root:audio:0660
aload*:root:audio:0660
amidi*:root:audio:0660
dmfm*:root:audio:0660
dmmidi*:root:audio:0660
sndstat:root:audio:0660
sr*:root:optical:660
scd*:root:optical:660
pcd*:root:optical:0660
cdrom*:root:optical:0660
dvd:root:optical:0660
rdvd:root:optical:0660
cdroms/*:root:optical:0660
pilot:root:root:0660
and, as i said, the error seems to not care which user i am
[will@09:18:49 ~]$ alsamixer
No mixer elems found
[root@MobileEvil will]# alsamixer
No mixer elems found
(i installed today.. the times still off :oops: )
sorry for all the -code- snips
thanks in advance
will
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it looks ok to me,
try to remove hotplug from the daemons array and if that doesn't work switch to udev,
arch + gentoo + initng + python = enlisy
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thanks for the timely replly (as seems to be the higher standard of the archlinux board)
hotpluggin didn't seem to affect it either way
but [for anyone searching]
snd_intel8x0m and
snd_intel8x0
are not the same thing
-- i took the m off in rc.conf (after modprobe -r 'ing it and hearing sound) and sound seems to work fine
however.. sound is working.. again after a reboot and lsmod has intel8x0m in there
i donno.. but sounds working
maybe does it matter in what order things are loaded in
will
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remove hotplug from the DAEMONS array altogether - hotplug always screws things up and I would HIGHLY recommend never using it.... ever! (I hate hotplug)
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remove hotplug from the DAEMONS array altogether - hotplug always screws things up and I would HIGHLY recommend never using it.... ever! (I hate hotplug)
it's quite useful if you use USB devices through libusb which does not seem to detect them w/o hotplug tho.
I recognize that while theory and practice are, in theory, the same, they are, in practice, different. -Mark Mitchell
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udev handles USB devices just fine... actually I should rephrase my earlier post - I hate the hotplug daemon, not hotplug itself (which is a large part of udev)
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as above^ i don't have udev and need my usb printer
how hard is it to go to udev/is it worth it
(no windows to boot into if things go horribly wrong... and generally i need a printer for homework)
thanks in advance
will
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how hard is it to go to udev/is it worth it
it's very easy to switch to udev and it looks like it is the future,
there is three steps to do, check this wiki,
wiki->howtos->system->udev...
hope you not screw it up,
arch + gentoo + initng + python = enlisy
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how hard is it to go to udev/is it worth it
udev is very easy to switch to... to summarize the howto:
1) append "devfs=nomount" to your kernel boot line in lilo.conf or menu.lst
2) convert your devfs permissions and things to udev style (to much info for me to summarize here, but it's easy, just read the howto)
3) enjoy
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thanks
hopefully i get around to it over the weekend
thanks again
will
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