Bash 4.0 is out!

lardon · 2009-02-24 07:44:30

Bash 4 is out, with a lot of new features... So when will we get it in Arch? I suppose changing the bash version can cause quite a lot of problems, since a lot of arch depends on it...

Edit: link : http://www.mail-archive.com/cygwin@cygw … 94439.html

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droog · 2009-02-24 07:48:29

No way! feels good man.

Allan · 2009-02-24 07:53:36

lardon wrote:

So when will we get it in Arch?

Have a read of arch-dev-public. Aaron has already started the rebuilds for bash and readline.

ArchArael · 2009-02-24 09:37:36

Wow!!! autocd and ** wildcard and programmable completion.

I'm wondering if there are still reasons to switch to zsh now that we have these features also in bash.

dolby · 2009-02-24 10:04:43

Bash had programmable completion before too..

ArchArael · 2009-02-24 10:37:32

dolby wrote:

Bash had programmable completion before too..

Yes...but was it official? I mean in the bash code trunk.

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EDIT: Yes it was from the 2.04beta version...sorry.

I misunderstood bash-completion package that should be a sort of extension of bash completion capabilities.

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andre.ramaciotti · 2009-02-25 17:25:25

ArchArael wrote:

Wow!!! autocd and ** wildcard and programmable completion.
I'm wondering if there are still reasons to switch to zsh now that we have these features also in bash.

Besides the ones listed above, there are associative arrays on zsh and now they're on bash, too. But can bash do float arithmetic? Last time I've tried, it couldn't.

Anyway, I'm not going to change back, I have zsh nicely configured here.

ArchArael · 2009-02-26 09:07:17

andre.ramaciotti wrote:

ArchArael wrote:
Wow!!! autocd and ** wildcard and programmable completion.
I'm wondering if there are still reasons to switch to zsh now that we have these features also in bash.
Besides the ones listed above, there are associative arrays on zsh and now they're on bash, too. But can bash do float arithmetic? Last time I've tried, it couldn't.
Anyway, I'm not going to change back, I have zsh nicely configured here.

You are right. But, I was talking about bash users that are thinking to switch to zsh. I think that the gap now is a little bit thinner than before. By the way, for my scripting purposes I never needed float arithmetic and if I needed it I would pick some external program. I like the unix idea of combining programs that do well just one task they are made for. I hope indeed that bash will always focus on simplifying the user interaction without trying to do things the external programs can/could do better.

By the way...I don't think that any hardcore zsh user will chose bash 4.0 over zsh. Bash doesn't offer any particular feature zsh doesn't have.

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lardon · 2009-02-26 09:14:33

ArchArael wrote:

I like the unix idea of combining programs that do well just one task they are made for. I hope indeed that bash will always focus on simplifying the user interaction without trying to do things the external programs can/could do better.

That's basically what I don't like about zsh: they try to do everything inside the shell. I prefer a modularized system, where small utilities compete for user mindshare.

stefanwilkens · 2009-02-26 10:32:15

Link to the arch-dev-public archives:
http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch … 10357.html

Jus browse through the replies, it looks promising

ArchArael · 2009-02-26 10:59:26

stefanwilkens wrote:

Link to the arch-dev-public archives:
http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch … 10357.html
Jus browse through the replies, it looks promising

Here is the list of packages have to be rebuilt due to readline 6.0 upgrade: http://phraktured.net/readline-rebuilds

As I mainly interact with my system through bash I hope bash 4.0 / readline 6.0 will be stable enough to remain just a little in testing.

LTSmash · 2009-02-28 19:26:24

Hmm...

Havent syu'ed for a week, and was thinking of doing this today, but since there's gonna be kinda massive rebuilds, I'll just wait 'till this goes to core :S

test1000 · 2009-03-01 04:03:27

andre.ramaciotti wrote:

there are associative arrays on zsh

not that i know if this is the same(15 second read of wikipedia says it is) but bash has "always"(ok so i don't know when they got it, but atleast before 4.0 since i'm not running 4.0) had associative arrays. that is

$ moo[1]=$(echo hello)
$ echo ${moo[1]}
hello

andre.ramaciotti · 2009-03-01 12:16:28

In associative arrays you use keys instead of numbers to access the values, so...

% typeset -A hash
% hash=(one hello two world)
% print $hash[one]
hello
% print $hash[two]
world

I've never really used it, though...

test1000 · 2009-03-01 20:30:01

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nfm · 2009-04-25 22:55:21

Any news on 4.0 coming to core? There hasn't been much of discussion lately.

lilith2k3 · 2009-04-26 17:01:58

Or any reason why it isn't coming (besides the usual "when it's ready it'll come) ...?

Allan · 2009-04-26 17:08:13

There was a bug that caused mkinitcpio to fail (nice way to break your system...) so we were waiting on a patch to come out. Things look better now so hopefully Aaron can push the rebuilds soon.

dsr · 2009-04-27 20:51:05

Associative arrays, yay! It took 16 years, but bash has finally caught up to korn...

bdheeman · 2009-05-10 19:47:22

I started using bash-4.0.10 on March 9, 2009 for ArchLinux machine after seeing it working fine on my FreeBSD machines, updated to bash-4.0.17 on May 7, 2009 again.

Although I have not tested it thoroughly, but seems it is working fine on ArchLinux also.

ArchArael · 2009-05-26 10:00:59

Allan wrote:

There was a bug that caused mkinitcpio to fail (nice way to break your system...) so we were waiting on a patch to come out. Things look better now so hopefully Aaron can push the rebuilds soon.

Any news so far?

Allan · 2009-05-26 10:17:27

Hmmm.... completely slipped of my radar. I will try and chase it up.

ArchArael · 2009-07-02 07:57:47

BASH 4.0 ---> CORE REPO

Yay!!! Thank you all, guys.

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Themaister · 2009-07-02 08:29:13

How did you build bash properly? I always had the problem with readline. I first compiled and installed readline, and all of a sudden, woops, bash couldn't find readline lib, so bash was rendered useless (couldn't build bash )

test1000 · 2009-07-02 08:30:55

maybe by rebuilding bash without closing the shell between installing readline?

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