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#1 2004-11-30 05:43:57

_will
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what are good apps

i am a software whore and wish to sleep with all the open source i can get a hold of. but theres a lot to go through and i don't have the stamina.

what are some of your favorate lesser known works of code art

i'd put engage and mpd on my list
and would include erss, skippy, and alien if i ever got them to work
(http://kitenet.net/programs/alien/)


thanks in advance
will

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#2 2004-11-30 12:35:46

djhizz
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Re: what are good apps

_will wrote:

i am a software whore and wish to sleep with all the open source i can get a hold of. but theres a lot to go through and i don't have the stamina.

what are some of your favorate lesser known works of code art

i'd put engage and mpd on my list
and would include erss, skippy, and alien if i ever got them to work
(http://kitenet.net/programs/alien/)


thanks in advance
will

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#3 2004-11-30 13:11:27

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Re: what are good apps

I gotta say that introducing oneself as "software whore" isn't quite normal.

but if you want cool apps : fortune (my all time favorite), celestia, nicotine,
bittorrent, mutt, nethack

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#4 2004-11-30 13:59:49

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Re: what are good apps

opera! smile
otherwise...netris is pretty addictive


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#5 2004-11-30 14:05:08

luisfelipe
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Re: what are good apps

I guess opera doesn't really qualify as "open source" (last time I used it was
version 3, so things might have changed).

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#6 2004-11-30 14:17:05

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Re: what are good apps

/me hails the gods of xfe.

luisfelipe wrote:

I guess opera doesn't really qualify as "open source"

AAAHH!! the flames are about to start lol
/me runs for the hills.

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#7 2004-11-30 14:23:53

luisfelipe
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Re: what are good apps

hehe, why do you use a file manager ?? just use bash and 'mv' , 'cp', etc.

/me really trying to start a war tongue

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#8 2004-11-30 15:24:56

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Re: what are good apps

screen

of course, it doesn't really count for obscure...maybe the ability to do wonky stuff with it is a bit obscure..like using a cron job to pipe commands to a detached instance periodically..
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#9 2004-11-30 16:09:35

phrakture
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Re: what are good apps

figlet and cowsay... hours of fun

# cowsay "hello"

both are in pacman

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#10 2004-11-30 17:09:00

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Re: what are good apps

_will wrote:

what are some of your favorate lesser known works of code art

Ensmer  :twisted:

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#11 2004-11-30 20:38:03

luisfelipe
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Re: what are good apps

I dare say that Dusty's opinion is kind of biased when it comes to Ensmer.
Something about his signature just tells me that, but I'm not so sure tongue

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#12 2004-11-30 21:29:28

Dusty
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Re: what are good apps

luisfelipe wrote:

I dare say that Dusty's opinion is kind of biased when it comes to Ensmer.
Something about his signature just tells me that, but I'm not so sure tongue

ah yes, but the original post didn't say anything about avoiding bias. wink He asked for 'favourite lesser known works of code art.'  Break it down...

lesser known first... outside of Arch, I haven't really publicized this project at all.  QUALIFIES.
favourite, second... I spend beteen about six hours a day coding Ensmer... would I do that if I didn't like it?
work of code art... I may study computer science, but I'm not a computer scientists... I'm an aspiring hacker... coding is an art, I am an artist... and this is my best work yet.

Now then, tell me you aren't going to give it a whirl after all that, eh? :-D

Dusty

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#13 2004-11-30 22:45:01

dp
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Re: what are good apps

xfce4 + konqueror


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#14 2004-11-30 22:45:43

dp
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Re: what are good apps

ohh ... and of course xbindkeys


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#15 2004-11-30 23:22:40

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Re: what are good apps

dusty, I'm downloading it as I type this.
Nah, I'm lying. I don't think that it will work on this pc I'm using here.
But I will try to test it later tongue

As for xfce, it's really nice, but I still prefer to use wmi or evilwm (I know, these
are just wm's, but I really don't need a desktop environment).
Konqueror just sucks IMHO. But I have alot of problems with firefox too.

Has anyone noticed that printing support in all of the browsers available
in linux just SUCK ??? I mean, I can't print anything using firefox or konqueror,
and I haven't even tried dillo cuz it's rendering engine is really bad in my opinion.
Whenever I need to print something, I'm using htmldoc, but I'm not very happy
with the result also.

Another piece of software that I really like is wget. I usually install it even on the
windows machines I'm obliged to use.

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#16 2004-12-01 17:47:01

dp
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Re: what are good apps

luisfelipe wrote:

...
Has anyone noticed that printing support in all of the browsers available
in linux just SUCK ??? I mean, I can't print anything using firefox or konqueror,...

i can print from konqueror fine ... it even let's you to make pdf's out of the output directly  8)

i understand your point that konqueror can "suck" but it's always a matter of searching the least evil ;-)


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#17 2004-12-01 18:17:45

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Re: what are good apps

In most of the sites I tried to print using Konqueror or Firefox, the output
was messed up, if for example, people didn't insert <br>s on the text.
The part of the text that would go outside of the page, comes on top
of the rest of the text (dunno if I have explained it correctly).

And one of the main reasons I think konqueror sux, is the same one
that I have for thinking that all of kde apps sux.
I don't use kde, I use wmi, so whenever I have to start a kde app, it
takes forever, and they don't really go along well with wmi in general.

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#18 2004-12-01 20:16:03

dp
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Re: what are good apps

luisfelipe wrote:

In most of the sites I tried to print using Konqueror or Firefox, the output
was messed up, if for example, people didn't insert <br>s on the text.
The part of the text that would go outside of the page, comes on top
of the rest of the text (dunno if I have explained it correctly).

being a webmaster for some sites, i must say, that the scenario you are explaining is NOT the trouble of the browser but the trouble of the one who wrote the code to generate the website ... <br/>'s are not at all the best way to separate texts ... if people only would know, how to write correct css' and use things only for things, they are intendend to be (on some sites, when i look at the code, i must think of analogies like using a hammer to open a computer case :twisted: )

luisfelipe wrote:

And one of the main reasons I think konqueror sux, is the same one
that I have for thinking that all of kde apps sux.
I don't use kde, I use wmi, so whenever I have to start a kde app, it
takes forever, and they don't really go along well with wmi in general.

here i agree with you ... kde has some momentum, but some of the apps are really usefull! i think, that the main problem is the QT, that is not designed the same way like e.g. gtk2 ... it is _very_ easy to write qt apps (because of the api, the docs and other usefull helpfull stuff) but still i'm thinking, that if i find some time, i will port konqueror to gtk2 (this will need a lot of time, because the kdelibs are NOT running natively gtk2 and konqueror is using a lot of stuff out of kdelibs)

for the startup of kde-apps: you can start kdeinit in advance (e.g. in a script in background at startup of X --- the way i use it), so that some things are preloaded and kde-apps will start much faster than before (because there is no need to init the kde basic stuff, as it is already in ram) --- however, this is only recomendend, if you can spare ~44mb of ram ;-)

i really like wmi ... that's why i have it installed on any machine i need to mainain .... but for some things, it just look too "small" on a 15" UXGA screen (very small pixels) ... here xfce is the alternative: it is fast, gtk2 and has a wm that has elementar but nice window titles/borders, that are customizable if someone would make wmi use gtk2 for some things (in some way like a wrapper) and use bigger things (bigger fonts for a start), it would be the reason to use wmi for daily work


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#19 2004-12-01 21:00:29

vicious
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Re: what are good apps

Probably the best app out there is gcc.

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#20 2004-12-01 21:04:13

dp
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Re: what are good apps

vicious wrote:

Probably the best app out there is gcc.

... mainly, because it is free and with a lot of features - yes!


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