Daily KDE4 Subversion Packages

markc · 2009-05-10 07:05:01

@pano: just a long shot but try commenting out kdm in your /etc/rc.conf DAEMONS=() line (using !kdm) and add "exec startkde" to your ~/.xinitrc file, confirm you have your locale and language variables set up correctly in your shell, and then do a "startx". You could also try adding a [Locale] setting to you ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals file with Country= and Language= options.

Many thanks to mangus for updating the source packages at http://github.com/markc/kde-svn. If anyone else wants to join in on the fun then email markc@renta.net and ask to be set up with Git write perms (the Google Code svn repo will be removed sometime soon). It's also possible to add binary packages, like at http://pkg.eth-os.org/kde/stephan/, but you need to be prepared to build them regularly and have at least a 50K/s upload speed. It's be good if someone wanted to manage and build the kde/stable i686 and/or x86_64 packages as they would only need building once a month.

pano · 2009-05-10 10:42:30

markc:

If I start KDE with the xinitrc file, my locale problem is gone, thanks!... I wonder why this way it does work...

markc · 2009-05-10 11:36:22

@pano: for some reason the normal kdm startup is not picking up on your locale and language settings. Have a look at your ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals file and make sure it's got something like this...

[Locale]
Country=de
Language=de_DE@euro

also grep -v '#' /etc/locale.gen will show what locale settings your system has enabled. If it's not right then su - and edit that file and uncomment the ones you think you need and run locale-gen. Don't forget to match it up with the LOCALE= setting in /etc/rc.conf and perhaps try a cd /etc && grep -r LOCALE * to see if there are any other settings hanging around that need adjusting or removing.

pano · 2009-05-10 11:52:07

markc:
My locales are all set correctly (locale and "locale -a" do not show any errors and ouput the correct locales) and my kdeglobals file also looks good
The only thing that makes me wonder are the lines 343-350 in my rc.sysinit:

# Flush old locale settings
: >/etc/profile.d/locale.sh
/bin/chmod 755 /etc/profile.d/locale.sh
# Set user defined locale
[ -z "$LOCALE" ] && LOCALE="en_US"
stat_busy "Setting Locale: $LOCALE"
echo "export LANG=$LOCALE" >>/etc/profile.d/locale.sh
stat_done

I'll do some googling about that...

thanks!

wrc1944 · 2009-05-10 14:31:15

Every time I try to do an pacman -Syu, I still get this old unixodbc conflicts with iodbc problem. Isn't there a fix for this? Have I just missed something, and my system is misconfigured? What am I doing wrong, and does anyone else running kde-svn-all have this problem?

Whatever the case, it's a pain to always have to remove a bunch of deps and/or kde-svn just to update Arch. This of course is only if kde-svn is installed, which I love. Sometimes I can get away with doing kde-svn first, sometimes not.

bash-3.2# pacman -Syu
:: Synchronizing package databases...
 kde-svn                    4.8K   44.3K/s 00:00:00 [#######################################] 100%
 kde-extra is up to date
 testing                   12.7K   90.7K/s 00:00:00 [#######################################] 100%
 core                      33.5K  137.2K/s 00:00:00 [#######################################] 100%
 extra                    377.7K  122.5K/s 00:00:03 [#######################################] 100%
 community                365.3K  111.9K/s 00:00:03 [#######################################] 100%
:: Starting full system upgrade...
warning: exiv2: local (0.18.1-1) is newer than extra (0.18-1)
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
warning: removing 'taglib' from target list because it conflicts with 'kdesupport'
:: unixodbc conflicts with iodbc. Remove iodbc? [Y/n] n
error: unresolvable package conflicts detected
error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies)
:: unixodbc: conflicts with iodbc
bash-3.2# b

pano · 2009-05-10 14:40:30

wrc1944:

I had the same issue, unti l I just removed unixodbc with
pacman -Rd unixodbc

Everything seems to work fine, apart from the message I get when doing pacman operations:
"missing dependency for apr-util : unixodbc"

rebuilding the apr-util package without the unixodbc dependency should solve this, but I'm too lazy to do this

wrc1944 · 2009-05-10 16:37:34

Thanks much pano,
I think when I had this before I did that, but I'll give it another try.
So it's definitely that apr-util has an optional unixodbc dep that Arch includes by default in it's package, but kde-svn definitely now needs iodbc?

Guess that's one of the problems running precompiled Arch. In Gentoo (my main distro), it would be an easy matter to build apr-util without unixodbc support. Guess I could learn to do it on Arch, but my main reason for Installing Arch was to have a really great system without having to do all the compiling on this partition.

Guess there must be a way in Arch to build apr-util without the unixodbc dep, and then "lock" it into that version, so when pacman wants to update it again on a future -Syu, it won't try and install it with unixodbc.

EDIT: OK- installed kde-svn-all first. Then did a pacman -Syufd and installed 33 other regular updates, including a new kernel.
Using the -f and -d options can't be good, and I'm concerned about what other problem might arise later . However, it worked, and thing seem normal, so far.......

BTW, I don't seem to have apr or apr-util even installed.

Last edited by wrc1944 (2009-05-10 17:04:45)

maattd · 2009-05-10 17:02:20

wrc1944 wrote:

Thanks much pano,
I think when I had this before I did that, but I'll give it another try.
So it's definitely that apr-util has an optional unixodbc dep that Arch includes by default in it's package, but kde-svn definitely now needs iodbc?
Guess that's one of the problems running precompiled Arch. In Gentoo (my main distro), it would be an easy matter to build apr-util without unixodbc support. Guess I could learn to do it on Arch, but my main reason for Installing Arch was to have a really great system without having to do all the compiling on this partition.
Guess there must be a way in Arch to build apr-util without the unixodbc dep, and then "lock" it into that version, so when pacman wants to update it again on a future -Syu, it won't try and install it with unixodbc.

It's really easy, search for ABS (and read the wiki ..)

lucke · 2009-05-10 17:03:19

wrc1944 wrote:

Guess there must be a way in Arch to build apr-util without the unixodbc dep, and then "lock" it into that version, so when pacman wants to update it again on a future -Syu, it won't try and install it with unixodbc.

Use ABS and IgnorePkg in pacman.conf.

wrc1944 · 2009-05-10 18:49:49

Thanks maattd and lucke for the excellent tips.
They will come in handy on Arch in the future. However, in relation to pano's tip for this specific problem I'm not sure if it will help, as I don't even have apr or apr-utils installed at the moment.

Only a normal pre-compiled binary Arch installation (testing), and have been running markc's kde-svn packages which I adopted after I got tired of compiling kde-svn and qt-copy with the kde techbase kdesvnbuild script.

Nex time I update Arch and/or kde-svn, if apr-utils comes up I'll give the ABS tip a try see if it resolves the issue.

Spy · 2009-05-10 20:39:29

Gnewview now works with new build but I notice that ark window disapearing afrer run...

pano · 2009-05-12 20:40:28

Is here anyone else, that has Policy-Kit issues?
Since some days I can't reboot/shutdown my PC from the kickoffmenu anymore. I need root privileges to do so...
I also can't set up Policy-Kit through the systemsettings, even If I start it with root privileges: I just can't add any users to the "granted" list of any action..

Is there a way to "disable" Policy-Kit completely?

markc · 2009-05-12 22:42:22

@pano: this is not directly related but maybe you can glean something useful from this thread...

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=65070

EvilSide · 2009-05-13 11:40:49

Amarok won't start for me:

amarok(6982) Phonon::KdePlatformPlugin::createBackend: using backend:  "Xine"
<unknown program name>(6981)/: Communication problem with  "amarok" , it probably crashed.
Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." "

Any ideas for solution?

ozeta · 2009-05-14 11:31:02

i can't open pdf files with okular, it shows me a generic error. there is something i can do for fix that?

karoshi · 2009-05-14 12:51:40

ozeta wrote:

i can't open pdf files with okular, it shows me a generic error. there is something i can do for fix that?

pacman -S poppler-qt

Then it should work.

ozeta · 2009-05-14 17:10:14

i love you (not litteraly )... thanks

Last edited by ozeta (2009-05-14 17:10:48)

pano · 2009-05-16 16:09:40

@markc:

OMG I am blind ;-) I had "used" this topic to get my removable drives work without being root, but apparently I didn't open up my eyes enough... Thanks!

btw:
According to "man PolicyKit.conf" it is enough to add

<match user="$your_usernames">
             <return result="yes"/>
</match>

to allow your user to do anything...

edit:

Can you update the playground-base-plasma package? The current version (2009050416) is a bit outdated. ;-)

Thanks!

Last edited by pano (2009-05-16 16:43:09)

maattd · 2009-05-17 09:56:43

looking for inter-conflicts...
:: taglib conflicts with kdesupport. Remove kdesupport? [Y/n] n
error: unresolvable package conflicts detected
error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies)
:: taglib: conflicts with kdesupport

Does kdesupport have PROVIDE = taglib ?

Last of the Wolves · 2009-05-17 10:24:16

@pano:
do you still have the language issue? I had the same and found out, that the problem was the combination of zshell and kde. There is a patch, fixing that problem in extra/kdebase and I included it to kde-stephan/kdebase. So it's working here. Another workaround is to create ~/.zprofile and export LANG=de there.
There is also a kde-stephan/l10n-kde4-de package that get's compiled with all the other packages multiple times a week.

@mattd:
cat kdesupport/PKGBUILD | grep taglib
pkgdesc="KDE 4 Support (automoc4 qimageblitz soprano strigi taglib decibel)"
provides=( automoc4 akonadi decibel eigen phonon polkit-qt qimageblitz strigi soprano taglib taglib-extra tapioca-qt telepathy-qt)
conflicts=(automoc4 akonadi decibel eigen phonon polkit-qt qimageblitz strigi soprano taglib decibel taglib-extra tapioca-qt telepathy-qt)
replaces=(automoc4 akonadi decibel eigen phonon polkit-qt qimageblitz strigi soprano taglib decibel taglib-extra tapioca-qt telepathy-qt)

pano · 2009-05-17 15:45:16

EvilSide wrote:

Amarok won't start for me:

amarok(6982) Phonon::KdePlatformPlugin::createBackend: using backend:  "Xine"
<unknown program name>(6981)/: Communication problem with  "amarok" , it probably crashed.
Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." "

Any ideas for solution?

I have the same error...
Running it with root rights also does not work (I thought it might be a PolicyKit permissions related problem, but since not even root can run it, it is not a PolicyKit problem)

@ Last of the Wolves

I didn't investigate this issue further, as it works If I disable my KDM... (Btw: I do use zsh too, but my locales seem to be set correctly... I'll do some more testing when I'm bored:D)
But thanks for the information!

Spy · 2009-05-17 20:00:16

delete amarok configuration files and it should start

Solid1986Snake · 2009-05-18 18:40:17

There seems to be something wrong with the build of playground-base-plasma, its outdated since 4 may.

I tried to built it on my own and had no problems..... maybe you can look over it

Next thing: it seems like Ark is compiled against the package "rar" from aur. I think it would be better to use unrar from repositorys...

Last edited by Solid1986Snake (2009-05-19 11:00:41)

venky80 · 2009-05-19 22:12:20

why is gstreamer a hard dependency is it possible to make it optional? same thing about networkmanager? i have tried kdemod and the kde beta both of them do not pull in networkmanager

venky80 · 2009-05-20 00:52:30

iam not able to figure how to get my wireless working
i have networkmanager in my rc.conf alse i have disabled !network and eth0 and wlan0 what else do i need i get cannot parse xml error when i try network in system settings

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