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#26 2009-05-27 07:10:46

tpowa
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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

Ah and an other debugging tip, you could try to reinstall grub package to install environment.
Mount the cd and reinstall the correct grub package for your architecture, then run setup.

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#27 2009-05-27 08:27:42

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

When will netcfg2 be added on the ftp iso's. Without netcfg2 i cant setup my wifi connection and am forced to use the core iso whenever i wanna do a fresh install. I prefer to a start a fresh installation with the latest pkgs using the ftp iso.

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#28 2009-05-27 10:04:27

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

archboot includes netcfg2 on the image and as installation packges, the 2009.05 contains already the beta version.

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#29 2009-05-27 10:40:00

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

feliperibeiro wrote:

There's a patch that provides ext4 support for GRUB. Arch's GRUB package comes with this patch by default.

Ah, I stand corrected. Thanks for the tip feliperibeiro. Interesting, I knew Arch had a "no patches unless absolutely necessary" policy. And now I know that grub is patched. Heh - why am I not suprised?

Yeah, I stop grumbling now about GNU development practices - me don't wanna troll :-/

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#30 2009-05-27 11:51:42

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

lseubert wrote:

Interesting, I knew Arch had a "no patches unless absolutely necessary" policy. And now I know that grub is patched. Heh - why am I not suprised?

Don't you think it's "absolutely necessary" to be able to boot from an ext4 partition?

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#31 2009-05-27 12:35:18

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

Archlinux grub does support ext4 it is patched to support this.

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#32 2009-05-27 19:30:29

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

I still cannot get dmraid to recognise an isw (ich9m-e) raid-1 set with this release, I don't know how to apply patches but I think it is related to the serial number not being recognised correctly. Debian have something called 14_isw-serial-fix.patch, is there any way for me to try and recompile dmraid with this patch.

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#33 2009-05-27 23:05:45

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

I'm curious, why is not the filesystem a squashfs? Now that squashfs is included in the vanilla kernel that's even easier .. and could save memory use in the installer*


*which by itself is not a big deal, but if one wants to make a custom boot image, including maybe even X - saving memory would become more important

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#34 2009-05-28 06:16:08

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

damjan: archboot is designed to boot from memory and not from any media.
whompus: could you mail the patch to me or open a bug report with the mentioned patch?

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#35 2009-05-28 10:13:29

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

tpowa I just modified the pkgbuild in the thread below to use -8.diff. The patches can be found in src/dmraid/1.0.0.rc15/dmraid-1.0.0.rc15/debian/patches/

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=68629

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#36 2009-05-28 10:32:03

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

tpowa wrote:

damjan: archboot is designed to boot from memory and not from any media.

So what if you put the squashfs image in the initramfs, a bit ugly yeah, but you get the compression which could improve things on memory starved PCs

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#37 2009-05-28 10:47:48

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

initramfs compression is already gzip, it will improve when lzma will work nativly with .30er kernels in the future, double compression will give no benefit here.

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#38 2009-05-28 12:15:12

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

surgat_ wrote:

Don't you think it's "absolutely necessary" to be able to boot from an ext4 partition?

Mmm, not really. But then, that is just me. I always configure my systems with a separate boot partition, and I remember the days when grub didn't support ext3. (Heck, I remember the days when LILO was the main bootloader of choice) Back then, I just set up /boot to use ext2. Eventually, grub did support ext3, and so I use ext3 these days on my /boot partition.

So for me, having grub support ext4 isn't a necessity. I am used to grub being well behind the times.

That said, Arch developers patching grub to support ext4 is a very good idea - it makes things convenient and simpler for users, especially newer users. And so long as this patch is proven to be stable and is well supported and maintained, then patching grub is a great idea.

Cheers,
Luke Seubert


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#39 2009-05-28 15:58:32

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

tpowa wrote:

initramfs compression is already gzip, it will improve when lzma will work nativly with .30er kernels in the future, double compression will give no benefit here.

initramfs is uncompressed in ram, I'm talking about keeping the fs compressed in RAM .. I wonder if there's maybe compressed ramfs somewhere.

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#40 2009-05-28 20:42:33

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

damjan this will not work, because archboot uses plain mkinitcpio to generate imagem, what you are looking for is archiso.
memory is calculated as follows: kernel + initrd + uncompressed initrd = ram needed to boot successfull

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#41 2009-05-30 12:50:09

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

tpowa wrote:

hrm i don't have time to check on the grub issue till the weekend, but it's a strange thing the setup routine wasn't changed,
since 2009.04 only syslinux support was addede which is a complete other part.

If you could do me a favour, try 2009.04 iso with setup file from 2009.05, if this breaks it's a setup issue.

I can test it but ... I don't know how to do that, if you can explain the general idea of how to do it I guess I can figure out the rest and try it ^^;


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#42 2009-05-30 15:27:42

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

Are you on irc or jabber or something like this?
just pm me your details

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#43 2009-05-30 16:24:27

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

ha i think i found the problem with grub,
xfs_freeze is called in setup routine, to allow grub install on xfs.
It seems latest xfsprogs freezes the system if no xfs is used on the mountpoint.
If you use no xfs as filesystem for boot or root do this:
Quick solution to avoid this issue is simple:
rm /usr/sbin/xfs_freeze
and it should work as it should.

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#44 2009-05-31 04:04:34

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

tpowa wrote:

ha i think i found the problem with grub,
xfs_freeze is called in setup routine, to allow grub install on xfs.
It seems latest xfsprogs freezes the system if no xfs is used on the mountpoint.
If you use no xfs as filesystem for boot or root do this:
Quick solution to avoid this issue is simple:
rm /usr/sbin/xfs_freeze
and it should work as it should.

Worked like a charm, Tobias.

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#45 2009-05-31 15:10:01

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

Updated image file to 2009.05-2, this fixes the weird grub install issue.
2009.04 and 2009.05-1 were removed from mirrors.

Have fun
greetings
tpowa

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#46 2009-05-31 19:15:54

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

Tested and works fine here smile


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#47 2009-06-02 11:04:14

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

tpowa wrote:

archboot includes netcfg2 on the image and as installation packges, the 2009.05 contains already the beta version.

Ok cuz the latest official iso 2009.02 (ftp version) does not contain netcfg2. So if i understood correctly the next official ftp version will have necfg2 installed?

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#48 2009-06-02 12:24:21

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

I cannot tell you, because i don't create the official isos anymore since they moved to archiso.

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#49 2009-06-03 11:46:35

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

I think I have found a small problem (if I didn't mess something up).
If you choose the ftp install and tell the setup that you want to use the mirror you used for the install then the path is not set correctly in mirrorlist.

Ex.:
It will be set to:

Server = ftp://cesium.di.uminho.pt/pub/archlinux/core/os/x86_64

when it should say

Server = ftp://cesium.di.uminho.pt/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64

Edit: Formating

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#50 2009-06-03 12:50:14

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Re: 2009.05-2 archboot "Schmuie" ISO hybrid image and torrent released

hrm thought this was fixed some time ago, will look at it in next release, thx.

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