Quick-init - Boot your arch in 10 seconds

Dfizzle · 2009-06-10 11:00:04

last time I tried this it used to fail at filesystem check but now I have 5+ successful boots. Thanks for this awesome thing.
from ~30sec to less than 10sec boot.

ammon · 2009-06-10 18:36:05

Why wont it autologin? I've done the same thing as with normal inittab. As shown on wiki article Start X at boot time.
Am I missing something?

tuxfusion · 2009-06-10 19:32:37

try to put the command from inittab into your rc.local this was the way how it worked for me.
It is described on the first page of this thread

Regards

methuselah · 2009-06-11 01:53:14

Sjet wrote:

wouldn't boot on my system... hung on checking filesystems... complaining that I should run a manual check... doing that did nothing... ?

Same thing for me..... it stalls at:

mounting local file system  = BUSY

Then after stalling with a BUSY (instead of DONE of FAIL), I finally press 'enter' to maybe push it along..... then it goes straight to a black screen and gives me an error message about /var/run/dbus.pid

Then it stalls for my OssV4 modules:

oss_hdaudio: Unknown HDA codec 0x14f15051
oss_hdaudio: Unknown HDA codec 0x14f15051

.... so I press 'enter' again and then it leaves that black screen and gives me a console prompt to login. (where I un-install quick-init with a pacman -Rn and then copy my saved version of my iniitab back to /etc/inittab)

Any idea as why I get this problem?

Last edited by methuselah (2009-06-11 01:54:42)

ammon · 2009-06-11 13:47:37

tuxfusion wrote:

try to put the command from inittab into your rc.local this was the way how it worked for me.
It is described on the first page of this thread

You mean:

#id:3:initdefault:
id:5:initdefault:

in qinittab

and

x:5:once:/bin/su user -l -c "/bin/bash --login -c xinit >/dev/null 2>&1"

in rc.local?

Wra!th · 2009-06-11 14:57:04

Do you guys really restart like every 10 minutes? If that's not the case this is quite useless. My 2 cents

lejonet · 2009-06-12 02:10:47

Wraith, its quite useful for laptop users, and for impatient desktop users
Ive found it to be awesome on my netbook and I might consider putting it on my other laptop too. The restart doesn't become a hassle then, it goes very fast and its over with, same goes with startup, which is really nice. Especially on netbooks which I guess you dont have on continously for more than a couple of hours.
Then its nice to know that you dont have to wait a 30-60 ea startup.

ammon · 2009-06-15 08:17:20

Nope, autologin wont do. Tried with "start X at boot time" and with Slim.

Could it be that X wont start? They do after i login an run xinit. But why not at boot time?
I use Nvidia and Hal.

slyson · 2009-06-15 12:34:15

ammon: putting the following in normal /etc/inittab (not qinittab) works for me....

c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty --autologin joe vc/1 linux

And obviously you need to 'pacman -S mingetty' first, and also change the username in the line.

But if you would rather put the lines in rc.local then try removing the 'c1:2345:respawn:' type parts as I suspect they are only recognised by the inittab scripts. I couldn't get the mingetty way to work in rc.local anyway, but this worked:

/bin/su YOURUSER -l -c "/bin/bash --login -c xinit >/dev/null 2>&1

I don't like that line though, as it doesn't keep me logged into X when I ctrl-alt-backspace, whereas the first solution works fine.

Last edited by slyson (2009-06-15 12:45:28)

ammon · 2009-06-15 13:23:09

Ok. Done! Thanks!

P.S.

Still need to fix that HAL/Xorg hold up after deamons finish. No, xorg-antidesktop does not work. I got massive problem with it, crashes, errors, blaaah.
But edit standard xorg - server pkgbuild, the one from repo. And add "--disable-config-hal \" in pkgbuild. It works, its faster and less HAL troubles.

Last edited by ammon (2009-06-15 17:38:52)

brazzmonkey · 2009-06-15 22:20:14

Thanks for your contribution adriano. I've been reasonably successful with quick-init on several computers. FYI I usually get the following error:

mount: mount point /var/lock does not exist

Doesn't seem critical, though.

ammon · 2009-06-16 09:38:55

Any plans to make this work with splashy?

brazzmonkey · 2009-06-23 07:57:14

Looks like there's an small issue following latest module-init-tools. Configuration files' location changed (now in /etc/modprobe.d/), and quick-init doesn't seem to handle this properly. For instance, I've got several aliases for my network cards in /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf, but quick-init doesn't seem to take these into account: my NIC are swapped. It works as expected when I switch to Arch default init scripts.

Majki · 2009-07-03 16:10:13

How to safely remove it?

Ok - I figured out. When I remove it via yaourt, program displays info.

Nevermind.

Last edited by Majki (2009-07-04 08:10:45)

TigTex · 2009-07-04 15:57:37

Quick-init "project" is dead?... Development stoped

Stunts · 2009-07-06 12:26:45

Just wanted to say thank you, Adriano!

Quick-init works great on my eeePC! 15 secs from grub to a fully loaded GDM. (used to take 22 secs)

Stunts · 2009-07-06 20:09:14

Hi again,

I have tried quick-init on my laptop too and it does have an issue:
GDM will take a long time to load and won't auto login.

I'm using the inittab method, but launching GDM from rc.local (like someone in the thread suggested) will fail too. I will try to start it as a deamon, and see if that works, but i'm not really sure it will solve my problem.

Using nVidia (8600M GT).

GDM loaded fine on my eee901...

Thanks for any tips!

Stunts · 2009-07-06 20:36:28

Starting GDM as a deamon solved the auto login problem.
X still takes ages to load, so the final difference is of about 1 sec faster.
Oh well... and this looked so promising. =-)

Stunts · 2009-07-15 21:46:33

Hi everyone, especially Adriano, you may be interested in this link:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/14 … inux_boot/

a linux system booting in less than 1 second. Check it out on the video. Maybe you can catch some of those ideas?

kozer · 2009-09-20 17:16:23

after the last update kdm doesnt start via qinittab and i have to put it in deamons list to make it work.
PS i have enable autologin via kdm.But and without autologin the same thing happens
In my eeepc everything works just fine.But in eee-pc i have no xorg.conf.
My pc has a nvidia 8800gt card.
How can i fix it?

Last edited by kozer (2009-09-20 17:45:06)

adriano · 2009-09-22 00:10:45

Hi people! Sorry for my cheal in this months...I worked to a new stable version of QUICK-INIT 1.11-10
Many italian users try it with excellent results!

This is the comparison between original init and latest quick-init on eeepc901

Traditional INIT

QUICK-INIT

You can find init on AUR http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=25563
Informations on official page: http://www.obliquo.net/?articles/quick-init.html

Last edited by adriano (2009-09-22 00:16:10)

Solid1986Snake · 2009-09-22 18:14:36

I just installed quick-init...
Is there any indicator that arch boots with your boot scripts? I can remember that in eralier versions the boot mesage was customized, but this seems to be gone at the moment.

I am not really sure that it is working for me, because nothing seems to have changed at boot...

adriano · 2009-09-22 18:20:47

You should have qinit.sysint e qinit.multi calls in /etc/inittab

tuxfusion · 2009-09-22 19:08:14

Do i still have to change /sbin/bootchartd for quick-init , and if yes where ?
I remember it was necessary for finit-arc but i can't remember where.
Did that change maybe in latest boothchart ?

Edit: I figured out bootchart just works like with normal init, if only it would
not make the image so damn small with custom init scripts.

Why in the world is that this way you can't see a thing on those scrreens !
A normal bootchart image is as wide as the time it elapsed until it got the kill sig from user.
The quick-init , finit-arc bootcharts are always only 15 secs wide , real sucky imho.
Why ? because i can now see X loads more early but X i don't care for. I care for my WM ,
that is openbox until that is not there i have no use for X , but i'm a prefectionist sicko
So far the screens don't show a boot improvement for the user on my side.
I'll let you know if i find something out.

Last edited by tuxfusion (2009-09-22 20:53:18)

adriano · 2009-09-22 22:07:28

In quick-init you must not do nothing for bootchart logging. You don't stop it like with finit-arc, it was wrong.
Bootchart automatically stop logging when X is loaded and user is logged.

If you don't confide in bootchart you can count the seconds manually and see you can see the difference. I assure you that quick-init is faster than classical init.

Last edited by adriano (2009-09-22 22:08:27)

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