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#1 2009-06-20 18:17:57

JordyD
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Will AUR ever be mixed up with [community] and [extra]?

I was just wondering whether AUR will ever be a repo that you could use pacman with like [community] and [extra]. I like the idea, but does anybody see anything wrong with it? I think it should be disabled by default (commented out in the list of repos), leaving it to the user to decide whether they want to use unsupported packages. Does anybody see this ever becoming a possibility?


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#2 2009-06-20 18:36:57

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Re: Will AUR ever be mixed up with [community] and [extra]?

I don't see it

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#3 2009-06-20 18:40:10

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Re: Will AUR ever be mixed up with [community] and [extra]?

AUR doesn't host package's, but scripts that define how the package is build, to make it an repo one must employ a large aray of build boxes.


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#4 2009-06-20 18:41:07

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Re: Will AUR ever be mixed up with [community] and [extra]?

AUR contains PKGBUILD's which can help you to create packages. Have look at here:

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PKGBUILD

From that what I know pacman does not know about PKGBUILD's as you are using makepkg to do packages so it can't be just used like normal repository.

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#5 2009-06-20 18:46:55

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Re: Will AUR ever be mixed up with [community] and [extra]?

Hm. So AUR is just a way to make packages? I can take any tarball not in the repos and make a package with ABS? I'm thinking of something similar to Ubuntu's GiftWrap (http://giftwrap.tuxfamily.org/index.php?), is that accurate, or that more automated than ABS?

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#6 2009-06-20 19:01:10

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Re: Will AUR ever be mixed up with [community] and [extra]?

You can use 'yaourt' to do it. PKGBUILD is a file which is downloading package, making it and creating a package. 'pacman' is installing those packages whereas 'yaourt' from archlinux.fr repo can use PKGBUILD's from AUR to create a package and next to install it just like 'pacman' is doing.

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#7 2009-06-20 19:25:33

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Re: Will AUR ever be mixed up with [community] and [extra]?

Mazur wrote:

You can use 'yaourt' to do it. PKGBUILD is a file which is downloading package, making it and creating a package. 'pacman' is installing those packages whereas 'yaourt' from archlinux.fr repo can use PKGBUILD's from AUR to create a package and next to install it just like 'pacman' is doing.

So it's almost a repo? A psuedo-repo?


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#8 2009-06-20 19:27:57

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Re: Will AUR ever be mixed up with [community] and [extra]?

It'll never be a (binary) repo (like [extra] or [community]) since anyone can submit anything into it, even (for instance) some malicious stuff, something that prohibits distibuting binaries by the license (lots of stuff like this is already there), etc...

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#9 2009-06-20 19:36:32

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Re: Will AUR ever be mixed up with [community] and [extra]?

bender02 wrote:

It'll never be a (binary) repo (like [extra] or [community]) since anyone can submit anything into it, even (for instance) some malicious stuff, something that prohibits distibuting binaries by the license (lots of stuff like this is already there), etc...

That makes sense.This is why yaourt gives me so many warnings when I try to install something?


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#10 2009-06-20 19:54:45

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Re: Will AUR ever be mixed up with [community] and [extra]?

Yes. And that's why you can't install yaourt (or other AUR wrappers) from the repos.

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#11 2009-06-20 21:02:21

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Re: Will AUR ever be mixed up with [community] and [extra]?

Well we can only hope "community" will grow, surely with the huge influx of new users lately, there must be more potential TU's to come in.

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#12 2009-06-20 22:21:11

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Re: Will AUR ever be mixed up with [community] and [extra]?

I have always hoped that all repos would shrink. Theres too much junk, along with unmaintained (upstream & downstream) software, in both extra and community.


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#13 2009-06-20 22:28:09

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Re: Will AUR ever be mixed up with [community] and [extra]?

I am all in favour of a cleanup of junk and obsolete packages, but the point I was trying to make was more TU's will make for more good quality packages.  Surely more TU's would improve any cleanup process anyway (well hopefully anyway wink)

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#14 2009-06-20 22:44:02

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Re: Will AUR ever be mixed up with [community] and [extra]?

I can guarantee that having more * wont raise quality, happens quite the contrary most of the times. unless every TU/dev has 10 packages like Debian. Then maybe.

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