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#1 2009-06-08 17:01:10

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Oss 4.1v problems

hello everyone

so i've switched to ossv4 too, since i had enough trouble with alsa and pulseaudio.
eveything works just fine, except the part that i have no sound from totem, nor banshee and rhythmbox.
i assume it's because of gstreamer thing.
i have installed the gstream-good-plugins-oss4 but nothing has changed sad.
any ideas ?


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#2 2009-06-08 17:22:47

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Re: Oss 4.1v problems

Did you change the preferred output to point to /dev/dsp ?


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#3 2009-06-08 17:32:57

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Re: Oss 4.1v problems

how do i do that ?

hmmm rhythmbox works just fine in openbox , but in gnome still nothing.
also if i login first in gnome logout and then login in openbox sound dead again...

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#4 2009-06-08 21:36:00

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Re: Oss 4.1v problems

There's a gconf setting you have to do to set up gstreamer for oss.  Unfortunately, I haven't found out how to do this yet because I'm not using Gnome.  I found some info on it on this page:

http://wiki.songbirdnest.com/Developer/ … amer_Setup

Look at "Selecting Your Output Plugin"

I tried to manually create the file:

#cat ~/.gconf/system/gstreamer/0.10/default/%gconf.xml
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<gconf>
  <entry name="audiosink" mtime="1240072084" type="string">
    <stringvalue>osssink</stringvalue>
  </entry>
</gconf>

But unfortunately it's not working.  That's the best I got big_smile

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#5 2009-06-08 21:37:34

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Re: Oss 4.1v problems

Ack, double-post

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#6 2009-06-08 22:34:03

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Re: Oss 4.1v problems

thanx for the feedback smile, but i have already tried that too and still nothing.
it has to be something with gnome but i have no clue sad

cat %gconf.xml 
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<gconf>
    <entry name="videosrc" mtime="1244500235" type="string">
        <stringvalue>videotestsrc is-live=true</stringvalue>
    </entry>
    <entry name="videosink" mtime="1244500235" type="string">
        <stringvalue>autovideosink</stringvalue>
    </entry>
    <entry name="audiosrc" mtime="1244500235" type="string">
        <stringvalue>osssrc</stringvalue>
    </entry>
    <entry name="audiosink" mtime="1244500246" type="string">
        <stringvalue>osssink</stringvalue>
</gconf>

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#7 2009-06-08 22:49:12

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Re: Oss 4.1v problems

What about deleting your hidden files in /home/NICKNAME/ ? I mean .gnome folder or something like that, I am using Oss4.1 with Gnome on x86_64 and it works really fine!


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#8 2009-06-08 22:51:49

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Re: Oss 4.1v problems

Use VLC for videos, and Install Amarok1 (in AUR) for music. I wasted 3 hours trying to get gstreamer to work with OSS last night, it's just not worth it. I LOVE OSSV4 now though. I can finally listen to my music and movies in 4.1 (I know I know...I don't have 5.1), it sounds sooo nice!

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#9 2009-06-08 23:36:23

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Re: Oss 4.1v problems

MazurMe I'll give it a try and see what happends smile

MeathooK VLC works just fine anyway, 'cause you can select the audio output. If everything fails i'll install sweet Amarok smile.
I LOVE it too! sounds soooooo good.


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#10 2009-06-08 23:47:52

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Re: Oss 4.1v problems

still nothing
deleting .gnome2 didn't do anything sad
why?!

VICTORY AT LAST!!!
just uninstalled alsa and pulseaudio and i mean uninstalled and delete eveything related to it smile

thanx everyone!

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#11 2009-06-19 20:53:37

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Re: Oss 4.1v problems

so...
i thought i solved this, but yesterday i got my hands on a new hdd and installed archlinux smile.
everything just run fine smile only this time i installed OSS right away, and not alsa.
last time i thought it was alsa and pulse and i was right at lease part of it.
gnome sounds in general uses esd, and i have everything installed including the esd-oss packages.
that i came to realize today is that in order to use the gnome sounds i had to install alsa-plugins and eventually and some lines in the /etc/asound.conf and do a sort alsa emulation.
so i didn't really get rid off alsa the last time, and now i have to use alsa-plugins.
i don't know if there is a way to esd to run oss and gnome sounds just by that.


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#12 2009-06-19 21:22:50

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Re: Oss 4.1v problems

Easiest way !

1) Install gnome-media .
2) Run gstreamer-properties & change settings .
3) Uninstall gnome-media .


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#13 2009-06-19 22:39:05

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Re: Oss 4.1v problems

Nezmer wrote:

Easiest way !

1) Install gnome-media .
2) Run gstreamer-properties & change settings .
3) Uninstall gnome-media .

you are a god big_smile
care to explain why this has been bugging me all this time ?
should i remove the esd and esd-oss also?

gnome-media removes gnome-volume-control and i can't control the volume setting...

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#14 2009-06-20 00:00:46

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Re: Oss 4.1v problems

no that didn't work either sad


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#15 2009-06-21 00:14:56

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Re: Oss 4.1v problems

geoisis wrote:

no that didn't work either sad

Can you expalin in more detail .

I have gstreamer-properties set like this
vMXYwZw

I use ossxmix(GUI)/ossmix(CLI) for volume control . I don't use esd as OSS works with everything I use .

You don't have to remove gnome-media If you use it . My suggestion was for those who hate gnome dependencies .

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#16 2009-06-21 01:47:19

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Re: Oss 4.1v problems

Unfortunately I gave up on OSS, just isn't much support of it in KDE 4.  I did get ALSA working good though (had problems with it too) - added an "Advanced Configuration" section on the ALSA page on the wiki.


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#17 2009-06-21 14:02:26

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Re: Oss 4.1v problems

Nezmer wrote:
geoisis wrote:

no that didn't work either sad

Can you expalin in more detail .

I have gstreamer-properties set like this
http://omploader.org/vMXYwZw

I use ossxmix(GUI)/ossmix(CLI) for volume control . I don't use esd as OSS works with everything I use .

You don't have to remove gnome-media If you use it . My suggestion was for those who hate gnome dependencies .

i don't know anymore sad

yes i have already set up gstreamer-properties.
pulse-audio has an a script for esd, so the login sounds etc, work just fine, oss on the other hand does nothing, or at least i just can't make it work as i want it to.

i'm thinking switch to pulse-audio, or alsa as a last option.
damn i really like oss.


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#18 2009-06-21 18:34:31

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Re: Oss 4.1v problems

geoisis wrote:

damn i really like oss.

Yeah, me too.  But OSSv4 isn't in HAL and doesn't look like it's going to be:

I wouldn't expect any effort here. Linux systems focus entirely on
ALSA. OSS, the old one or any newer version, will likely never be
commonly used, or supported by major Linux distributions.

From the HAL mailing list.  sad


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#19 2009-06-21 21:04:07

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Re: Oss 4.1v problems

I find it sad that they won't support OSS. To be honest, I think more and more people are making the switch over to OSSv4.x because they find it works much better. I, for instance, have never had any issues with OSSv4.1. Just install it straight after a fresh arch install, put oss in your daemons line in rc.conf and have a blast. OSSXMIX/OSSMIX is really all one needs for volume manage. ALSA and Pulse have simply ruined audio in linux, IMO. Nothing but issues with them.

I think more and more distro's will start support OSS as their default down the road. Like I said, more and more people are switching.


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#20 2009-06-21 21:51:40

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Re: Oss 4.1v problems

Well, I personally have enjoyed using Pulse + Alsa. As with anything else in Linux, YMMV. It's heavily dependent on your hardware, for example, but from a software perspective PA is just getting more and more timeshare from devs compared to OSS, and in the end its the apps which are going to have to be USED.


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#21 2009-06-21 22:08:53

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Re: Oss 4.1v problems

The problem is that oss only have one dev working on it and in his spare time, atleast afaik. also see: wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/OSS for advantages-disadvantages.


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#22 2009-06-21 22:39:52

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Re: Oss 4.1v problems

FYI, I had better results (more volume, seemingly better sound quality) with the OSS4 plugin from gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad. I configured gstreamer-properties as such:

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