XOrg freezing my system...

dr0p · 2009-06-27 01:52:10

Okay, I'm back for help once again. Just for the hell of it I thought I would try out Win7 on my lappy. It was nice and all but still too slow for me compared to Arch. So today I backed up all my crap and started reinstalling Arch. I decided to go with EXT4 instead of EXT3 this time, no problems there. The install went fine, started setting up my system again, got to XORG... installed no problems. hwd -xa... nvidia-xconfig... everything going as it normally does so I didn't even really test anything. However, every time I try to start X, my entire system freezes up... I can't even switch to another virtual console. I've poured over my xorg.conf and just can't seem to figure out why it's doing this and it has never happened before. Could it be the EXT4?

Anyways, here are some files...
xorg.conf: http://dpaste.com/60293/
lspci: http://dpaste.com/60294/ (It's a recent Dell Inspiron 1420)

Thanks for your help.

droog · 2009-06-27 01:58:37

did you put hal in your daemons in rc.conf?

dr0p · 2009-06-27 02:07:57

Yeah, I have hal started.

arkham · 2009-06-27 02:45:07

Have you installed xf86-input-evdev and followed http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xor … figuration ?

windtalker · 2009-06-27 05:42:56

i686
Nvidia Geforce 7300 GT
ext4

xorg.conf

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig: version 1.0 (buildmeister@builder63) Mon Mar 2 12:45:55 PST 2009

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Layout0"
Screen 0 "Screen0"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "dbe"
Load "extmod"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
# generated from default
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
# generated from default
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"

EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Unknown"
ModelName "Unknown"
HorizSync 30.0 - 110.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 150.0
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Device0"
Driver "nvidia"
VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
Option "RenderAccel" "True"
Option "NoLogo" "True"
Option "AGPFastWrite" "True"
Option "EnablePageFlip" "True"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Device0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

MrShlee · 2009-06-27 06:47:42

It seems Dells are getting these errors? I have the exact same problem. I've installed ArchLinux on my Dell Inspiron 1520
Taken notes here : http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Del … 2_Install)

Everything works fine until I hit Xorg, hardcrashes shortly after launching on a black screen. (I sometimes get the nvidia logo)
I tried checking logs, but most of them look clean. I'll wgetpaste them tonight

I've never had a problem on this laptop previously and I'm using the same xorg.conf as I used on my last installation.

Last edited by MrShlee (2009-06-27 06:49:03)

windtalker · 2009-06-27 17:47:51

Must be with the newer Dells then.
I'm running on an older Dell Dimension Desktop.
Then again the only thing original is the MB and case.

dr0p · 2009-06-28 00:38:44

The weird thing is that it previously worked fine... did xorg go through a recent (2-3 weeks) major update?

arkham · 2009-06-28 01:17:39

dr0p wrote:

did xorg go through a recent (2-3 weeks) major update?

No, but there has been a major kernel update, even though I don't think it is your issue.
Read all the information here: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xor … leshooting
Be sure to have installed xf86-input-evdev

dr0p · 2009-06-28 02:33:18

Yeah, I have input-evdev installed too, and I've been through every guide you can think of. I think I didn't properly describe my problem earlier... whenever I start X it simply doesn't load. It clears the screen from all of my console commands and then freezes, I don't ever have anything show up on my screen... it doesn't have anything to do with Xorg interfacing with my hardware (I think). Sometimes it doesn't even finish clearing the screen and I can see the blinking cursor stuck in the top left corner in it's "_" state, not changing.

lifeafter2am · 2009-06-28 02:36:44

I had this problem with my XPS 1340 and it had something to do with my Xorg config file ... but for the life of me I can't remember what. If it's the same problem you should be able to ssh in from another machine and kill the X process and get your system back.

arkham · 2009-06-28 02:42:39

First of all install openssh, add to /etc/hosts.allow

sshd: ALL

and start it with

/etc/rc.d/sshd start

(or add it to your daemons)

Login with ssh from another pc and see if it is still responsive after X lockup.

Then install wgetpaste and run

wgetpaste /var/log/Xorg.0.log

dr0p · 2009-06-28 02:54:01

Yeah, I could connect to it from SSH...
Log: http://dpaste.com/60623/

MrShlee · 2009-06-28 10:30:24

dr0p wrote:

Yeah, I could connect to it from SSH...
Log: http://dpaste.com/60623/

Bingo.. same error on my Xorg.log.0

I've updated to recent Xorg and its still glitching

Update: The NVIDIA drivers were recently updated; does anyone have a cache of the last revision? id like to downgrade and see if that helps

Last edited by MrShlee (2009-06-28 15:38:08)

abdza · 2009-06-28 14:42:16

Have you tried renaming your xorg.conf to something else as backup? (ie. Don't use an xorg.conf file, just try to let the system detect itself).

MrShlee · 2009-06-28 20:15:15

Same issue regardless of if I have an Xorg or not. Doesn't matter what settings are disabled/enabled.

dr0p · 2009-06-28 23:03:31

MrShlee wrote:

Same issue regardless of if I have an Xorg or not. Doesn't matter what settings are disabled/enabled.

Yup.

arkham · 2009-06-29 00:04:35

Try reverting to older versions of the nvidia package.
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Downgrade_packages

dr0p · 2009-06-29 00:35:01

Well after downgrading my kernel and nVidia driver, xorg now starts. However my wireless driver (broadcom-wl from the aur) only works with the newest kernel. Any fixes for that? And thanks so much for the help so far.

pyther · 2009-06-29 01:16:00

^^
I would suggest figuring out which to blame: the nvidia module or the new kernel...

Last edited by pyther (2009-06-29 01:16:27)

arkham · 2009-06-29 03:48:49

dr0p wrote:

Well after downgrading my kernel and nVidia driver, xorg now starts. However my wireless driver (broadcom-wl from the aur) only works with the newest kernel. Any fixes for that? And thanks so much for the help so far.

As a temporary fix you could downgrade the broadcom-wl package too

MrShlee · 2009-06-29 07:32:52

Can somebody submit an urgent bug report for this..

Update: I've decided to use the partition as storage shortly after the problem. I'll install a clean version soon

Last edited by MrShlee (2009-06-29 17:19:18)

arkham · 2009-06-29 11:41:37

MrShlee wrote:

Can somebody submit an urgent bug report for this..

Can't you submit it?

brenix · 2009-06-29 14:58:00

My buddies Dell laptop had a similar issue. We had to install xf86-input-keyboard and xf86-input-mouse and it it started working. Guess it depends on what your Xorg log says.. The other thing is we tried enabling/disabling the hotplugging via the xorg.conf

dr0p · 2009-06-29 19:55:50

pyther wrote:

^^
I would suggest figuring out which to blame: the nvidia module or the new kernel...

I'll try updating the kernel and then using the vesa driver to start X later today and post the results. Once I figure out which package it is that is actually causing the problem I'll submit a bug report.

Edit: I updated the kernel, changed my xorg to use vesa, and all is well, except for the vesa driver really really sucks. I'll be submitting a bug report about it in a few minutes. In the meantime... how to force vesa to use the proper resolution?

arkham wrote:

dr0p wrote:
Well after downgrading my kernel and nVidia driver, xorg now starts. However my wireless driver (broadcom-wl from the aur) only works with the newest kernel. Any fixes for that? And thanks so much for the help so far.
As a temporary fix you could downgrade the broadcom-wl package too

Nobody keeps old versions of the AUR packages though ):

Last edited by dr0p (2009-06-29 20:09:38)

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