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#1 2009-07-03 07:17:00

cb474
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What happened to totem-xine? Gone from the repos.

I have totem-xine installed on my system, but with the lastest upgrades I get a notice that asks me to update it to regular totem, before any other packages are upgraded.

:: Starting full system upgrade...
:: Replace totem-xine with extra/totem? [Y/n]

When I look at the package lists in the repos, totem-xine appears to have completely disappeared.

Has totem-xine been abandoned for some reason? If I say no to pacman when it wants to upgrade totem, will totem-xine still work okay, or will it now/eventually conflict with other packages and upgrades to Gnome?

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#2 2009-07-03 17:45:32

JGC
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Re: What happened to totem-xine? Gone from the repos.

Totem will be removed from 2.27/28 upstream:
http://git.gnome.org/cgit/totem/commit/ … eb77ce5973

As I hate maintaining two versions of the same package all the time, I decided to remove it from the repositories already.

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#3 2009-07-03 20:27:10

cb474
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Re: What happened to totem-xine? Gone from the repos.

Thanks for the explanation. So when you say "Totem will be removed from 2.27/28 upstream," you mean just totem-xine, right? Not totem altogether? Other than the nuisance of maintaining two packages is there a reason xine is considered no longer necessary? Obsolete? Gstreamer has caught up?

Will there by another way to intall totem-xine if I want to?

Thanks again for any further explanations.

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#4 2009-07-03 21:34:28

DevoidOfWindows
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Re: What happened to totem-xine? Gone from the repos.

Create a PKGBUlLD for it.

Last edited by DevoidOfWindows (2009-07-03 21:35:26)

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#5 2009-07-03 22:05:29

JGC
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Re: What happened to totem-xine? Gone from the repos.

I meant the xine backend is removed upstream from totem. It's no longer maintained, and 2.27/28 will ship without the possibility to use xine as a backend. As Gstreamer is grown up these days, I decided to follow upstream and drop the totem-xine package.

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#6 2009-07-04 00:15:28

cb474
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Re: What happened to totem-xine? Gone from the repos.

DevoidOfWindows wrote:

Create a PKGBUlLD for it.

Yeah, I think the point is there may not be any source code anymore to create a package from.


@JGC, thanks again for the help. These things are all a little opaque to me. But so is the end result of what you're saying that there is in fact no way to use xine anymore with Totem (starting in 2.27)--in any distribution for that matter--unless I wrote the code myself (which unfortunately I have no idea how to do)? That is, if I wanted to do it myself, what would it take? Or is it basically not feasible? Thanks again.

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#7 2009-07-07 02:57:34

pwt
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Re: What happened to totem-xine? Gone from the repos.

"As Gstreamer is grown up these days" ... Is gstreamer able to properly read a dvd ? last time i tried it was still unable to handle menus. Both for encrypted and non-encrypted dvd.

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#8 2009-07-07 06:49:17

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Re: What happened to totem-xine? Gone from the repos.

gstreamer is much worse with dvd's. I can confirm it. The only player that recognizes menus on all my dvd's is kaffeine and it's working on xine engine.


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#9 2009-07-08 17:58:43

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Re: What happened to totem-xine? Gone from the repos.

By the way Gstreamer have problems with DVD menu. I was using totem-xine for DVD for all time before sad

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#10 2009-07-08 18:03:16

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Re: What happened to totem-xine? Gone from the repos.

giner wrote:

By the way Gstreamer have problems with DVD menu. I was using totem-xine for DVD for all time before sad

You can always rely on mplayer or VLC, they're both great applications for DVD's and I don't remeber having problems with DVD's menu as unfortunately I had with totem(GStreamer).

But hopefully people will work harder in order to fix those little problems in GStreamer.


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#11 2009-07-08 18:42:10

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Re: What happened to totem-xine? Gone from the repos.

mplayer has problems with DVD menu too, VLC isn't useful for me. Totem-xine was the most simple and useful for DVD watching.

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#12 2009-07-08 22:19:10

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Re: What happened to totem-xine? Gone from the repos.

giner wrote:

mplayer has problems with DVD menu too, VLC isn't useful for me. Totem-xine was the most simple and useful for DVD watching.

OK two more options since your only one appears to be only Xine. Have you tried xine-ui or gxine??


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#13 2009-07-09 07:33:36

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Re: What happened to totem-xine? Gone from the repos.

xine-ui is ugly, but it has always been the most reliable by far for me smile


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#14 2009-07-09 21:42:32

alienman
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Re: What happened to totem-xine? Gone from the repos.

shining wrote:

xine-ui is ugly, but it has always been the most reliable by far for me smile

I'm afraid that's right, is not just ugly, is even more than that, but hey, it works extremelly good. Gxine could be used for those who want something more GNOME look.


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#15 2009-07-18 22:00:27

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Re: What happened to totem-xine? Gone from the repos.

My only use of totem-xine was the generation of thumbnails in nautilus for video files.

Is there any alternative to get video thumbnails easily for every codec in nautilus or another file browser ?

Thx

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#16 2009-07-18 22:07:42

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Re: What happened to totem-xine? Gone from the repos.

PierreR wrote:

My only use of totem-xine was the generation of thumbnails in nautilus for video files.

Is there any alternative to get video thumbnails easily for every codec in nautilus or another file browser ?

Thx

totem+gstreamer


Give what you have. To someone, it may be better than you dare to think.

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#17 2009-07-19 06:48:59

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Re: What happened to totem-xine? Gone from the repos.

It works like a charm, thx

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#18 2009-08-09 22:47:02

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Re: What happened to totem-xine? Gone from the repos.

wonder wrote:
PierreR wrote:

My only use of totem-xine was the generation of thumbnails in nautilus for video files.

Is there any alternative to get video thumbnails easily for every codec in nautilus or another file browser ?

Thx

totem+gstreamer

Wath do you mean by totem+gstreamer?
I have both installed and i still cannot see the thumbnails of my videos... neutral

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#19 2009-08-17 17:26:07

Xi0N
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Re: What happened to totem-xine? Gone from the repos.

I still did not get the videos preview in nautilus.... can anyone give me some hint?

EDIT: Fixed

Last edited by Xi0N (2009-08-17 17:53:20)

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#20 2009-08-27 16:30:50

sergiolenzi
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Re: What happened to totem-xine? Gone from the repos.

I build the package again for the totem-xine
it is in the AUR AGAIN =====> http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=29643

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#21 2009-08-28 00:22:43

cb474
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Re: What happened to totem-xine? Gone from the repos.

Thank you!

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