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#26 2009-07-01 12:26:03

Murray_B
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From: Germany
Registered: 2008-07-29
Posts: 134

Re: Minimalism

DasWu wrote:

In my opinion minimalism indeed should not the aim to reach. Its simplicity what we are looking for. To strip down everthing doesn't help in any case. As stated before I think that minimalism for minimalism doesn't help anybody. I for myself try to follow the simplicity approach with means that i take small AND usable programs. Which helps me to focus on what i want to do and not spending hours of configuring and learning a tool, which leads me to the tiling wm problem. Most of the tiling wms i know are only really helpful if you spend hours of reading an building up a configuration. whereas openbox for example simply works.

I hope I made my point clear ;-)

Yes, I tend to a similar opinion. Let's say minimalism makes sense for REAL old computers, otherwise you should only look for simplicity.

For me it is important that I am only running programs I need. KDE for example starts a lot of services I don't need. I switched to xfce4, which is a  desktop environment, but lots smaller than KDE or Gnome. It is a small solution, where you can configure (nearly) everything you need with a GUI (I want to do the general setup with a GUI) and you can configure what you want to start, you can even switch off all panels if you don't want them.
And there are very usable programs that belong to xfce: Thunar, Terminal, etc. That is my type of simplicity and usability.

Maybe I switch to openbox in the future, but at the moment I am quite lucy with this "small" solution. I own a modern computer and there is no real need to switch to smaller software.

Okay, my personal favourite for a small mp3-player would be cplay, maybe with an mplayer-backend. Or something similar like moc. mpd+sonata is really nice, but I don't need the cover and cplay is easier to use. And I don't want the mpd running all the time, it isn't really minimalistic to run a server all the time even if you don't use it.

Greets,

Thomas

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#27 2009-07-01 12:32:38

SpeedVin
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From: Poland
Registered: 2009-04-29
Posts: 955

Re: Minimalism

Hello
I agree with you but if someone build his own desktop from his favorite [rograms what he do?
He use WM not DE and build "simple/minimalistic" desktop smile
And about minmalism on old computers , he (minimalism) make sense on all computers becouse graphic and gamers need power and don't waste memory for  any programs smile

Last edited by SpeedVin (2009-07-01 12:39:47)


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#28 2009-07-01 13:54:52

Cilyan
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From: Toulouse (FR)
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Re: Minimalism

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#29 2009-07-03 02:30:01

darthaxul
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Registered: 2008-09-24
Posts: 156

Re: Minimalism

Shapeshifter wrote:

Minimalism is overrated.

Not when your waiting 5+ seconds for an application to load/respond each event.

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#30 2009-07-03 13:32:41

Lexion
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Registered: 2008-03-23
Posts: 510

Re: Minimalism

The most minimalist AND usable setup I can think of:

dvtm (console "window" manager), GNU screen (console manager), mpd/ncmpc, irssi, links2 or elinks (browser), mplayer-nogui,
bsh, vim, and some more console friends that you make along the way.

A good minimal setup:

vimperator/midori, urxvtc, mpd/ncmpc, irssi, mplayer, vim, and ls/cp/mv/rm/rename/grep/sort/htop/...


urxvtc / wmii / zsh / configs / onebluecat.net
Arch will not hold your hand

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#31 2009-07-03 20:35:00

pogeymanz
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Registered: 2008-03-11
Posts: 1,020

Re: Minimalism

Just use Emacs for everything.

I'm pretty sure you can chat and manage files with it, you can also play games and surf the web with it (and w3m, actually). And if you're REALLY bored, you can actually program with it (it's very powerful).

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#32 2009-07-04 06:43:40

toasty_ghosty
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From: The Internets
Registered: 2009-01-12
Posts: 103

Re: Minimalism

No No. You want real minimalism? Here you go:

Lynx - a terminal based web browser

http://lynx.browser.org/

Its actually not too bad. I used it on a server for awhile.


Thinkpad X200 FTW!

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#33 2009-07-04 14:05:15

Trent
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From: Baltimore, MD (US)
Registered: 2009-04-16
Posts: 990

Re: Minimalism

REAL minimalists use wget to download their pages, and parse the HTML in their heads... smile

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#34 2009-07-04 14:49:50

gazj
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Re: Minimalism

Try this for a minimal browser

http://www.glennmcc.org/aralinux/

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#35 2009-07-04 16:10:42

arkham
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From: Stockholm
Registered: 2008-10-26
Posts: 516
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Re: Minimalism

Trent wrote:

REAL minimalists use wget to download their pages, and parse the HTML in their heads... smile

http://lwn.net/Articles/262570/


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#36 2009-07-04 18:16:10

darthaxul
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Re: Minimalism

ya but how are those ppl gonna fill out their bank account forms when banks  use mr bill's silverlight fancy browsing featured .net frameworks?
or super duper flash plugin image applications that are used for security implimentations?
last time i tried those browsers dont support that.

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