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#1 2009-07-06 11:48:09

yjcong
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problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

hi,

I  just  updated to "kernel26  2.6.30.1-1". So I rebooted my system. After "grub", some lines of words showed up and the system rebooted  itself again. Then "some lines of words"->reboot->"some lines of words"->reboot->"some lines of words"->reboot->"some lines of words"->reboot->..............

Could someone tell me why this took place and what i should do?

thx

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#2 2009-07-06 12:34:26

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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

Do you have the same problem with the fallback image?

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#3 2009-07-06 12:34:49

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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

Try to choose in grub loading menu the second line - fallback and when it will boot check your load log file

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#4 2009-07-06 12:56:30

yjcong
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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

the same situation occured with the fallback as well. sorry for forgetting to mention that

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#5 2009-07-06 14:00:22

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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

It's pretty hard to diagnose without the content of the "some lines of words" you mention.

But my best bet atm is to boot with a livecd, mount and chroot your system. When chroot'ed check your /var/log/dmesg.log for any hints on what may be causing the error. Errors like this can sometimes be corrected by fiddling with mkinitcpio (adding modules/hooks) and rerunning mkinitcpio, other times it is better to simply downgrade kernel for the time being. But report back here with your findings before attempting this.

Follow the instructions for mounting a system after booting with a liveCD:

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Rei … stallation

You're not supposed to reinstall grub.

NB: If you just want to check your logs you can skip the chroot part and simply mount the partition containing the /var dir and look there.

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#6 2009-07-06 15:31:55

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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

same problem here, spontaneous reboots with 2.6.30.1, both regular and fallback image.  i don't see any text scrolling by though, no log entries either, just an instant reboot after grub timeouts.

chrooting and reinstalling .30 was the only solution for me.


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#7 2009-07-06 17:55:15

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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

I think the problem is something to do with the update process. When I went from 2.6.29... to 2.6.30 I had lots of problems, mainly being pacman gone missing. Then I reinstalled Arch with 2.6.30 with no problems then now that I've updated to 2.6.30.1 I cant boot!

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#8 2009-07-06 18:01:31

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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

litemotiv wrote:

same problem here, spontaneous reboots with 2.6.30.1, both regular and fallback image.  i don't see any text scrolling by though, no log entries either, just an instant reboot after grub timeouts.

chrooting and reinstalling .30 was the only solution for me.

And when this problem had appeared? Immediately after updating kernel to newer version or later?
As it was told above - booting from livecd is the only variant you can do

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#9 2009-07-06 19:04:04

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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

I have the same problem here - the computer wouldn't even start to boot with either the "default" or fallback image. The problem appeared after I upgraded the kernel. I now downgraded to the previous version and everything works again ...

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#10 2009-07-06 19:15:28

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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

I could confirm this on my x86_64 AMD Athlon X2 Dual Core. Other kernel update on i686 works.
i removed all framebuffer(vga) and quiet setting from bootparameter - i see nothing as output, the PC reboots immidiately.
Building a new initrd won't solve this. Downgrade to 2.6.30 works.

Have you the problem on a specific CARCH (here x86_64)?
And maybe on a special CPU Vendor (here AMD)

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#11 2009-07-06 19:19:24

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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

I can confirm this problem with the newest kernel package (2.6.30.1). The last message I see before the system reboots itself is "Decompressing Linux ...". My guess is that it somehow fails to decompress the kernel image. I copied back an older kernel image (vmlinuz26) to /boot and it works when I use that one. Rebuilding the ramdisk with mkinitcpio didn't solve the problem.

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#12 2009-07-06 19:23:25

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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

Please wrote something about your CARCH (i686, x86_64) and your CPU (Vendor, uname -a)

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#13 2009-07-06 19:28:48

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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

GerBra wrote:

Please wrote something about your CARCH (i686, x86_64) and your CPU (Vendor, uname -a)

intel x86_64 here


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#14 2009-07-06 19:30:48

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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

That's the one causing the problem for me:

i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

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#15 2009-07-06 19:34:26

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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

Ok, it's so nothing special for ex. AMD-CPUs or x86_64....
Myself have also other reports where 2.6.30.1 have no problems...

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#16 2009-07-06 19:35:26

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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

OK, I think I found it. The problem is not in the kernel package, but in the new version of xz-utils. The new "beta4" package seems to be defect. I downgraded to beta3, ran mkinitcpio again and now I have a perfectly booting kernel.

I didn't notice this before because I upgraded both xz-utils and the kernel at the same time.

Btw, this is on i686.

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#17 2009-07-06 19:48:08

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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

GerBra wrote:

Ok, it's so nothing special for ex. AMD-CPUs or x86_64....
Myself have also other reports where 2.6.30.1 have no problems...

Yep, no problems to report with new kernel here (running x86_64).


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#18 2009-07-06 19:55:12

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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

neptoon wrote:

OK, I think I found it. The problem is not in the kernel package, but in the new version of xz-utils. The new "beta4" package seems to be defect. I downgraded to beta3, ran mkinitcpio again and now I have a perfectly booting kernel.

I didn't notice this before because I upgraded both xz-utils and the kernel at the same time.

i regenerated .30 with xz-utils beta4 and that works fine, haven't tried .30.1 with beta3 though..


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#19 2009-07-06 19:57:38

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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

neptoon wrote:

OK, I think I found it. The problem is not in the kernel package, but in the new version of xz-utils. The new "beta4" package seems to be defect. I downgraded to beta3, ran mkinitcpio again and now I have a perfectly booting kernel.

Tested it here on x86_64, doesn't solve it.
I will rebuild the kernel26 package from abs-Tree myself (with xz-utils "beta3" installed) to see if i got
a difference.....

I will write a bugreport now, i think it's time for that.... although we have not many details for the report...
I post the Bugreport Number when finished...

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#20 2009-07-06 20:11:09

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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

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#21 2009-07-06 21:11:51

GerBra
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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

These people with problems: could you please write your system details into the bugreport?
uname -a
RAM
Motherboard
GPU/Graphiccard

//edit: and probably the filesystem you use for /  and /boot

Thanks

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#22 2009-07-06 21:27:28

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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

I had been having this "insta-reboot" problem with my custom Zen (2.6.31) kernel, and again, when I upgraded my custom vanilla kernel to 2.6.30.1.  The first solution was to clear my compiler cache and module folders and compile the kernels again.  That got me booting up.

The second solution was to move away from the JFS file system.  Apparently, there must some kind of bug.  I probably ought to report that.  A mess of segfaulting would happen at boot.  I moved over to Ext4.

Now, both of my custom kernels work great, and everything is behaving like it is supposed to.

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#23 2009-07-06 22:42:58

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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

DevoidOfWindows wrote:

The second solution was to move away from the JFS file system.  Apparently, there must some kind of bug.  I probably ought to report that.  A mess of segfaulting would happen at boot.  I moved over to Ext4.

And the same on my PC. Using a free partition as seperate /boot (ext2) i could boot 2.6.30.1 without problems.

To the other with same problem: To help figure this mysteroius bug out: please post your system infs and your FS (where your /boot lives) into the bugreport. I bet, that not all of you have jfs....

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#24 2009-07-06 23:28:25

yjcong
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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

thanks

"Decompressing Linux ..."

this is what i saw 

Please wrote something about your CARCH (i686, x86_64) and your CPU (Vendor, uname -a)

i686 celeron 1.4G HP laptop

OK, I think I found it. The problem is not in the kernel package, but in the new version of xz-utils. The new "beta4" package seems to be defect. I downgraded to beta3, ran mkinitcpio again and now I have a perfectly booting kernel.

but i only upgraded the kernel, i think

Last edited by yjcong (2009-07-06 23:28:47)

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#25 2009-07-07 00:22:16

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Re: problem with "kernel26 2.6.30.1-1"

Hmmm would this have anything to do with these messages I'm getting after a system update (I assume from mkinitcpio)

Mostly a whole lot of this:

Unrecognized file format '/lib/modules/2.6.30-ARCH/kernel/fs/quota/quota_v2.ko /lib/modules/2.6.30-ARCH/kernel/fs/quota/quota_v2.ko 644 0 0' line 433
Unrecognized file format '/lib/modules/2.6.30-ARCH/kernel/fs/reiserfs/reiserfs.ko /lib/modules/2.6.30-ARCH/kernel/fs/reiserfs/reiserfs.ko 644 0 0' line 435
Unrecognized file format '/lib/modules/2.6.30-ARCH/kernel/fs/smbfs/smbfs.ko /lib/modules/2.6.30-ARCH/kernel/fs/smbfs/smbfs.ko 644 0 0' line 437
Unrecognized file format '/lib/modules/2.6.30-ARCH/kernel/fs/squashfs/squashfs.ko /lib/modules/2.6.30-ARCH/kernel/fs/squashfs/squashfs.ko 644 0 0' line 439
Unrecognized file format '/lib/modules/2.6.30-ARCH/kernel/fs/udf/udf.ko /lib/modules/2.6.30-ARCH/kernel/fs/udf/udf.ko 644 0 0' line 441

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