[Solved] Browser randomly crashes with flash sites?

will1911a1 · 2009-05-20 18:47:52

Procyon wrote:

Yeah for both your posts the same behavior.

Hey at least it works now right?

I'm seriously confused about this though.

will1911a1 · 2009-05-20 21:44:00

Went through the same process on my second computer. The fix had the same result as it did on my first computer, but removing everything didn't do this trick this time. One difference: gstreamer0.10-plugins is required for brasero which I have on this box but NOT on my first one so it didn't get removed.

I don't know if that could have anything to do with this or not.

Ranguvar · 2009-05-21 01:55:32

I get random crashes too, but alas, I get them on Windoze, FreeBSD, and 32-bit Linux too, so whatever I attribute it to general Flash crappiness. Go Gnash/swfdec.

banshee28 · 2009-05-21 02:44:31

Amazing!!

Flash seems to be working for now. I can Finally go to the Adobe site and you tube works also. However not sure if its related but my sound is no longer working. Not sure what happened there.

I have all the gnash apps installed. I have not uninstalled them yet since flash is working.

Edit: Fixed the sound issue. Mplayer plug-in was causing the problem. Disabled it and working good now!

Last edited by banshee28 (2009-05-21 02:48:50)

youri · 2009-05-23 19:55:23

Hi, I have the same issue.

Installing gnash does solve the issue of firefox crashing, but it creates a whole new issue; gnash isn't a good replacement for flash, it's useless on basically everything. For example youtube is laggy and video/sound is unsynchronized. If I uninstall gnash the crashing comes back.

I have.

model name    : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 2800+
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AS [Radeon 9550]

That's a family 15 cpu <-- I guess that's the issue.

Also, I can't view the bug report on the adobe page because it's not for 'general access', can anybody see it?

Last edited by youri (2009-05-23 19:56:40)

MadCatX · 2009-05-24 10:09:33

Same here, it might indicate that there is something being done about this:)

processor    : 0
vendor_id    : AuthenticAMD
cpu family    : 15
model        : 12
model name    : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+

The thing about Family 15 CPU having a problems appears to be correct

Pluribootent · 2009-06-03 16:08:23

look here --> http://bugs.gentoo.org/260630

I have exactly the same problem on 64bit gentoo and arch, EMT64 Pentium processor.
The problem occurred almost the same day on both systems after an update.
I hope someone solves it soon.

youri · 2009-06-15 02:58:57

If your processor doesn't support some LAHF instruction set, then flash will crash!!! It looks like adobe is not going to bother fixing this. I am crying!

Pluribootent · 2009-06-18 17:35:51

I have this problem only since gnutls version 2.6.6. I have a P4 EM64T processor. Does that mean that I will never again have working flash on my machine?
on my Fedora and Ubuntu install flash works fine but with gnutls version before 2.6.6. This surely is terrible.

Who told you that adobe doesnt care?

R00KIE · 2009-06-18 20:43:26

processor    : 0
vendor_id    : AuthenticAMD
cpu family    : 15
model        : 104
model name    : AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-64
stepping    : 2
flags        : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch

Although generally slow and a cpu hog, flash was always working fine here, I guess I'm lucky then

Edit:
On my desktop it works fine too and it is a machine with a few years

processor    : 0
vendor_id    : AuthenticAMD
cpu family    : 15
model        : 47
model name    : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+
stepping    : 0
flags        : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow up pni lahf_lm

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Pluribootent · 2009-06-18 22:59:29

is it possible that missing lahf is the problem and a bios update does the trick?
I found this: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/23 … xes_em64t/

$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor    : 0
vendor_id    : GenuineIntel
cpu family    : 15
model        : 4
model name    :               Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
stepping    : 3
cpu MHz        : 3000.000
cache size    : 2048 KB
physical id    : 0
siblings    : 2
core id        : 0
cpu cores    : 1
apicid        : 0
initial apicid    : 0
fpu        : yes
fpu_exception    : yes
cpuid level    : 5
wp        : yes
flags        : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc pebs bts nopl pni monitor ds_cpl est cid cx16 xtpr
bogomips    : 5984.88
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment    : 128
address sizes    : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

processor    : 1
vendor_id    : GenuineIntel
cpu family    : 15
model        : 4
model name    :               Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
stepping    : 3
cpu MHz        : 3000.000
cache size    : 2048 KB
physical id    : 0
siblings    : 2
core id        : 0
cpu cores    : 1
apicid        : 1
initial apicid    : 1
fpu        : yes
fpu_exception    : yes
cpuid level    : 5
wp        : yes
flags        : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc pebs bts nopl pni monitor ds_cpl est cid cx16 xtpr
bogomips    : 5984.73
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment    : 128
address sizes    : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

doorknob60 · 2009-06-19 04:15:22

My Firefox randomly crashes after closing/navigating away from certain Flash things (thankfully not Youtube). Some sites it does it on are g4tv.com and criteriongames.com Does yours crash when you try to watch/load it or when you close the tab/leave the page?

R00KIE · 2009-06-19 09:45:45

Yup g4tv.com does the trick (tested on my notebook, arch64, turion X2), firefox ends with a segmentation fault after closing the tab with that page, didn't try the other page but I guess the result will be the same.

This is what I get when running firefox from the cli:

$ firefox
LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so [/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32]

(after allowing the video on the main page I get loads of this warning)

(firefox:7864): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(after browsing to videos and watching one video and closing the tab)

Segmentation fault

I'm starting to believe Ranguvar's theory: general flash crappiness
The other pages mentioned before all work fine for me though (even the one on the gentoo bug).

Pluribootent · 2009-06-19 11:06:54

my gdb output:

[New Thread 0x453ac950 (LWP 6249)]
[Thread 0x453ac950 (LWP 6249) exited]

Program received signal SIGILL, Illegal instruction.
[Switching to Thread 0x7f8505bee700 (LWP 6233)]
0x00007f84e62bfda3 in ?? ()

(gdb) bt
#0  0x00007f3b4807fda3 in ?? ()
#1  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()

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Pluribootent · 2009-06-26 15:03:55

no news?

banshee28 · 2009-06-27 12:24:10

Interesting the adobe bug post is no longer there ???

http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1026

maksverver · 2009-07-20 13:35:39

youri wrote:

If your processor doesn't support some LAHF instruction set, then flash will crash!!! It looks like adobe is not going to bother fixing this. I am crying!

For people missing the lahf instruction I have a workaround, that I posted on the Gentoo bug tracker: flashplugin-lahf-fix.c. It's a bit of a kludge but it works flawlessly.

youri · 2009-07-20 14:39:48

Thanks a lot maksverver, it works for me on my amd64 2800!! You are the best person in the world.

Crispy Beef · 2009-07-21 09:04:10

@maksverver

Brilliant fix! I've been wrestling with 64-bit Flash 10 on Gentoo and Debian for months and could never get certain sites to work, always crashed the browser. But after compiling the code - Debian squeeze - in the link and adding to my Iceweasel plugins directory Flash 64-bit works flawlessly.

As a matter of interest I found that the 64-bit plugin only ever crashed when trying to play SWF files that make use of FLV video. Being a web developer and doing a lot of Flash work I've been able to test things. When using YouTube and similar sites these are all streaming, so I did a test. One SWF with a video streaming using the NetStream ActionScript class, and another with the same FLV directly played/linked to. The result was that the NetStream version worked and the FLV version caused a crash, so it would seem that the instructions causing the crash are called during the playback of FLV files ... at least that's been my experience.

Again, thanks for the fix, really pleased!

banshee28 · 2009-07-22 23:17:32

I have the new so file created but either its not working or its not linked to the right place. I tried to put the new .so file under ~/.mozilla/extensions and also ~/.mozilla/firefox, but neither of them worked. Is there another place to place this file? How can I use the LD_PRELOAD command? It sounds like it is just not linked properly.

I also completely uninstalled: gnash, flashplugin and firefox and started over installing everything except gnash of course but...Still no luck?

EDIT: DUDE...I HAVE FLASH.....ITS WORKING FINE..FIRST TIME...THANKS

Last edited by banshee28 (2009-07-22 23:33:18)

youri · 2009-07-22 23:29:49

Mine is under ~/.mozilla/plugins/ and works great.

banshee28 · 2009-07-22 23:34:19

youri wrote:

Mine is under ~/.mozilla/plugins/ and works great.

Mine was under /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. Once I put it there, it worked..Thanks

banshee28 · 2009-07-22 23:42:58

Cant believe it...I guess I need to mark this as SOLVED, as at least its a very good workaround...

Once again THANKS maksverver ...

will1911a1 · 2009-07-23 13:56:53

EDIT: Nevermind, works great. THANK YOU.

Last edited by will1911a1 (2009-07-23 14:00:49)

fredo696 · 2009-08-10 14:08:22

Hi all

As an Arch newbie, I was encountering exactly the same problem on my freshly installed 2009.8 system...

but the fix provided by Maksverver works beautifully

Thanks!

Arch Linux

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