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#1 2009-07-10 17:04:43

auratux
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Consistenent crashing on Many Linux distros

Hiya community of arch fans (I think ^^),

There is something that's bothering me greatly with Linux lately, it's that every now and then without warning my desktop crashes (woot!).
The symptoms: music, videos and the whole DE freezes, I can still move my mouse but I can't change to tty#1-6 or Ctrl-Alt-Backspace (even though I can normally).

I can't tell if it's KDE, X crashing or if it's the kernel panicking.

I put an extract of my /var/log/errors.log of this day, I already crashed twice but I can't tell the problem.

Jul 10 10:46:16 Marc-Portable pulseaudio[2251]: module.c: Module "module-stream-restore" should be loaded once at most. Refusing to load.
Jul 10 10:46:24 Marc-Portable kdm_greet[2566]: Cannot set locale. Translations will not work.
Jul 10 10:46:27 Marc-Portable dhcpcd: dhcpcd not running
Jul 10 10:46:27 Marc-Portable dhcpcd: dhcpcd not running
Jul 10 10:46:46 Marc-Portable kernel: [drm:i915_get_vblank_counter] *ERROR* trying to get vblank count for disabled pipe 0
Jul 10 10:46:48 Marc-Portable kdm_greet[2704]: Cannot set locale. Translations will not work.
Jul 10 10:46:49 Marc-Portable kernel: [drm:i915_get_vblank_counter] *ERROR* trying to get vblank count for disabled pipe 0
Jul 10 10:46:49 Marc-Portable kdm[2508]: X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly
Jul 10 10:46:53 Marc-Portable kdm_greet[2721]: Cannot set locale. Translations will not work.
Jul 10 10:52:59 Marc-Portable kernel: [drm:i915_get_vblank_counter] *ERROR* trying to get vblank count for disabled pipe 0
Jul 10 18:17:14 Marc-Portable pulseaudio[2215]: module.c: Module "module-stream-restore" should be loaded once at most. Refusing to load.
Jul 10 18:17:22 Marc-Portable kdm_greet[2516]: Cannot set locale. Translations will not work.
Jul 10 18:17:25 Marc-Portable dhcpcd: dhcpcd not running
Jul 10 18:17:25 Marc-Portable dhcpcd: dhcpcd not running
Jul 10 18:25:11 Marc-Portable dhcpcd: dhcpcd not running
Jul 10 18:25:11 Marc-Portable dhcpcd: dhcpcd not running
Jul 10 18:25:11 Marc-Portable dhcpcd: dhcpcd not running
Jul 10 18:25:12 Marc-Portable kernel: [drm:i915_get_vblank_counter] *ERROR* trying to get vblank count for disabled pipe 0
Jul 10 18:39:51 Marc-Portable dhcpcd: dhcpcd not running
Jul 10 18:39:51 Marc-Portable dhcpcd: dhcpcd not running
Jul 10 18:42:58 Marc-Portable pulseaudio[2252]: module.c: Module "module-stream-restore" should be loaded once at most. Refusing to load.
Jul 10 18:43:05 Marc-Portable kdm_greet[2555]: Cannot set locale. Translations will not work.
Jul 10 18:43:08 Marc-Portable dhcpcd: dhcpcd not running
Jul 10 18:43:08 Marc-Portable dhcpcd: dhcpcd not running
Jul 10 18:54:02 Marc-Portable pulseaudio[2252]: module.c: Module "module-stream-restore" should be loaded once at most. Refusing to load.
Jul 10 18:54:10 Marc-Portable kdm_greet[2546]: Cannot set locale. Translations will not work.
Jul 10 18:54:13 Marc-Portable dhcpcd: dhcpcd not running
Jul 10 18:54:13 Marc-Portable dhcpcd: dhcpcd not running

Thanks in advance for any solutions.

EDIT: This happened also onn Fedora 11, Ubuntu 9.04 and Arch

Last edited by auratux (2009-07-10 17:05:36)

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#2 2009-07-10 17:20:20

rsambuca
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Re: Consistenent crashing on Many Linux distros

Sounds more like a hardware problem than anything else.  Run a memtest and also make sure your CPU isn't overheating.

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#3 2009-07-10 17:34:06

auratux
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Re: Consistenent crashing on Many Linux distros

The CPU doesn't overheat, even when he sensors say it's at around 65 degrees it crashes, for the memtest i'll try

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#4 2009-07-10 18:53:14

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Re: Consistenent crashing on Many Linux distros

Maybe if it's a kernel panic, you can't do alt+sysrq+S/U/B e.g., and maybe leds of keyboard  blink.

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#5 2009-07-10 19:49:52

reed9
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Re: Consistenent crashing on Many Linux distros

Do you have an intel graphics card by chance?  I had that problem using any sort of compositing window manager with the intel driver.  I believe it's a known bug.  Upgrading to the 2.6.30 kernel fixed the problem for me, though.

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#6 2009-07-10 20:03:09

Square
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Re: Consistenent crashing on Many Linux distros

Is your graphics card onboard? I had a buddy who had this same problem and the only way we could fix it was to add a discrete graphics card, since the onboard card seemed to have a memory leak and everything else was fine.

The way we were able to make this conclusion is that it was possible to use his system for days on end if no X session was present, but X would make the card crash consistently in a matter of minutes or hours depending on the resolution and depth.


 

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#7 2009-07-11 07:29:28

auratux
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Re: Consistenent crashing on Many Linux distros

Thanks for all your responses wink ,

I'll answer in order:

First of all I did a memtest there seem to be no problems,

For the kernel panic, normally I CAN move the cursor but i'll try.

I have an intel card but I am also on the 2.6.30 kernel on arch (I believe Fedora too), but It might explain the problem for ubuntu.

My card is also an onboard card, the problem is that it works fine for my brother on Windows (dual boot) even when he highly solicitate it with games like Half Life 2.

I thank you for your answers and I think we are getting closer to the answer.

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#8 2009-07-13 07:13:52

auratux
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Re: Consistenent crashing on Many Linux distros

Bump please.

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#9 2009-07-19 15:51:18

auratux
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Re: Consistenent crashing on Many Linux distros

Bump

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#10 2009-07-19 15:56:14

Skripka
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Re: Consistenent crashing on Many Linux distros

auratux wrote:

The CPU doesn't overheat, even when he sensors say it's at around 65 degrees it crashes, for the memtest i'll try

What CPU?

Dual core Athlon CPUs like the older 125W 3.2gHz-had a critical temp of 64C.  Also the temp you see is usually lower than what the actual value is.

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#11 2009-07-21 14:08:34

auratux
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Re: Consistenent crashing on Many Linux distros

Well I have a Dual Core Intel at 1.6 GHz 2 years old and the sensors sometimes go to 98°C I don't think lm_sensors has a 30° difference.
And anyway if it was due to the heat it will shutdown instead of freezing.

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#12 2009-07-21 17:20:14

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Re: Consistenent crashing on Many Linux distros

Kind of sounds like you're running out of memory in your vid card to me.

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#13 2009-07-21 21:29:07

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Re: Consistenent crashing on Many Linux distros

I might be late, but...

I had a similar issue, I upgraded to nvidia-beta and it seems like everything is working a lot better (hasn't crashed yet). So are you using a Nvidia card?


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#14 2009-07-22 04:02:12

kgas
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Re: Consistenent crashing on Many Linux distros

pyther the OP uses intel card.( hope you missed that)

auratex, please check your memory and cpu load when you are starting new applications. In my experience if applications are taking more cpu load (may be an infinite loop for unknown cause) system goes for a reboot. I hope you have enough ram and swap space.

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#15 2009-07-22 07:20:39

auratux
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Re: Consistenent crashing on Many Linux distros

I have 2 GB of RAM and the same of swap.
And applications don't to much CPU power I seen. Only Songbird takes up to 9% (because I'm running deezer in it).

But for a certain reason the freeze rate has considerably dropped. Now I experience i rarely, but it still happens sometimes.
I don't know why but I always notice that dhcpcd is a zombie process even though I use wicd and I put a bang! in front of network.

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