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#26 2009-07-06 13:55:54

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Re: Just getting started with arch, wireless troubles.

Hi kgas, thanks for the help.
I ran

rm /var/run/dhcpcd-wlan0.pid

It hung for a minute, and then I got:

err, wlan0: timed out
warn, wlan0: using IPVLL4 address (Ip address)

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#27 2009-07-08 13:12:22

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Re: Just getting started with arch, wireless troubles.

As said in the previous post kill the dhcpcd and try again. If rm is not removing pid remove it using rm -f. I don't get why the wireless is not working for you. Also check all wireless related modules (wirelss tools) installed correctly. Still not working please check the wiki which got all the explanation to get your wireless working.

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#28 2009-07-08 13:46:56

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Re: Just getting started with arch, wireless troubles.

Thanks, I've been thinking, could this be because of the way my router is configured?
I just poked in there by accident yesterday because the new phone was cutting out the wireless, so I needed to change the channel. However, I noticed DHCP was OFF, and part of me thinks this was a really stupid mistake.
Should DHCP be on? Are there any other settings I need to adjust? Thanks.
Here's a screenshot:
settingsc.th.jpg

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#29 2009-07-08 14:42:56

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Re: Just getting started with arch, wireless troubles.

dhcpcd on your machine is the client, and it needs a dhcp server to talk to. So yes, you need to turn on dhcp on your router.

Alternatively, you can use a static IP address on your machine, and forget about dhcp altogether.

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#30 2009-07-08 14:45:07

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Re: Just getting started with arch, wireless troubles.

Thank you, that makes sense. I will enable DHCP on my router and attempt it again.

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#31 2009-07-08 15:20:07

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Re: Just getting started with arch, wireless troubles.

I've enabled dhcp on my router and it's still timing out.

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#32 2009-07-08 18:46:11

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Re: Just getting started with arch, wireless troubles.

What is the output of iwlist wlan0 scan ?


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#33 2009-07-08 19:14:50

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Re: Just getting started with arch, wireless troubles.

wlan0 interface does not support scanning, network is down.
The network isn't down, I'm on it right now. There's nothing wrong with the card, it's worked with all other distros/OS's I've had on it.

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#34 2009-07-08 19:31:15

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Re: Just getting started with arch, wireless troubles.

What about the output of iwconfig and iwconfig -a?


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#35 2009-07-08 19:40:18

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Re: Just getting started with arch, wireless troubles.

iwconfig outputs:

wlan0         
IEEE 802.11g ESSID: "arch"
Mode: Managed Frequency:2.412 Access Point: Not-Associated
Tx-Power=27 dBm
Retry min limit:7      RTS thr:off  Fragment thr=2352 B
Encryption key:off
Link Quality:0  Signal Level:0  Noise Level:0
Rx Invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0  Missed beacon:0

iwconfig -a just outputs "-a no such device"

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#36 2009-07-08 20:22:43

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Re: Just getting started with arch, wireless troubles.

Crisis wrote:

iwconfig outputs:

wlan0         
IEEE 802.11g ESSID: "arch"
Mode: Managed Frequency:2.412 Access Point: Not-Associated
Tx-Power=27 dBm
Retry min limit:7      RTS thr:off  Fragment thr=2352 B
Encryption key:off
Link Quality:0  Signal Level:0  Noise Level:0
Rx Invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0  Missed beacon:0

iwconfig -a just outputs "-a no such device"

Run "iwconfig wlan0 -a".


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#37 2009-07-08 20:26:31

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Re: Just getting started with arch, wireless troubles.

No such command.
Edit: Just read the man page.

I ran "iwconfig wlan0 a"
I got: error in the wireless request "set Ap Address" (8B14) : Too few arguements.

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#38 2009-07-08 20:32:41

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Re: Just getting started with arch, wireless troubles.

I'm sorry, it should have been ifconfig -a. Nevermind now though. Which card/driver are you using?


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#39 2009-07-08 20:44:45

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Re: Just getting started with arch, wireless troubles.

I'm using a D-link WDA-2320, No specific driver, I installed the wireless-tools when I installed arch and that's about it. Thanks for help.
Alright, I've tried a few things.
First thing I did was:

iwconfig wlan0 ap any

Force the card to register to the Access Point given by the address, if it is possible. This address is the cell identity of the Access Point, as reported by wireless scanning, which may be different from its network MAC address. If the wireless link is point to point, set the address of the other end of the link. If the link is ad-hoc, set the cell identity of the ad-hoc network.
Which should force it to register an access point, which it did.
Now I run iwconfig and it says the access point it invalid.
I ran

ifconfig wlan0 -a

I get a hostname look failure.

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#40 2009-07-08 20:55:48

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Re: Just getting started with arch, wireless troubles.

Forget about that command: ifconfig -a show all the network interface present in your system.

What happens if you try these commands as root?
ifconfig wlan0 up
iwlist wlan0 scanning


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#41 2009-07-08 20:58:29

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Re: Just getting started with arch, wireless troubles.

I've been logged in as root, I ran the below commands and got no scan results.
I did try running ifconfig now and I see:
A hardware Address (00:21:91:7D:22:DB)
An internet Address, Bcast, and Mask.
etc

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#42 2009-07-09 15:43:39

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Re: Just getting started with arch, wireless troubles.

Sorry for the bump, but I still haven't solved this.
I've noticed that ever since I've turned dhcp on in the router, to get working internet I always have to reconnect. It's kind of weird, this haappens on my laptop as well as my desktop, on ubuntu, debian and windows xp. My internet shows up as connected, but pages won't load. If I repair the connection or reconnect, pages will load. Just something I've observed.

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#43 2009-07-29 05:09:27

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Re: Just getting started with arch, wireless troubles.

Hi, long time no post.
I've tried a few live CD's to see if I could get an arch system up and running but no luck.
Firefly linux live CD I was able to get connected to the net and install, but the installer's broken so it's no use.
However, when I tried the chakra live CD, I am able to see the network in network manager but I can't connect to it.
Maybe this problem is similar or related to my problem trying to connect with a barebone arch system. I have chakra installed right now, but no internet.
I'm not sure where the logs are stored for KDEmod's network manager, but if someone could point me in the right direction and help me diagnose them then maybe we can figure out what's wrong.
Or if someone would like  to help me continue where we left off trying to get wireless working in a barebone arch install I'd be happy as well.
Thanks a lot for all the support.

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#44 2009-07-29 22:38:59

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Re: Just getting started with arch, wireless troubles.

Bump!

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