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#1 2009-07-31 17:34:44

Nezmer
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Where people go on Archlinux.org

Warning : The stats provided by Alexa in this post are highly inaccurate . You can see more representative numbers provided by "toofishes" in the comments .

According to Alexa :
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The community is short of bug squashers , I figure .

Anyway , I just submitted a bug . Unfortunately , It's a feature request wink

Last edited by Nezmer (2009-08-01 20:46:54)


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#2 2009-07-31 18:06:41

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Re: Where people go on Archlinux.org

Nezmer wrote:

The community is short of bug squashers , I figure .

Anyway , I just submitted a bug . Unfortunately , It's a feature request wink

One could also say Arch is short on bugs wink


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#3 2009-07-31 18:08:23

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Re: Where people go on Archlinux.org

Just like I was thinking wink
But AUR only 2.7% then peapole need only this things what we are porvide in repos smile
And what about archlinux.org?
"Where peapole gon on Archlinux.org"
8.8% they reload site?


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#4 2009-07-31 18:22:42

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Re: Where people go on Archlinux.org

SpeedVin wrote:

But AUR only 2.7% then peapole need only this things what we are porvide in repos smile

Or, for example, people uses yaourt to search from AUR? big_smile


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#5 2009-07-31 18:26:55

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Re: Where people go on Archlinux.org

Pyntux wrote:
SpeedVin wrote:

But AUR only 2.7% then peapole need only this things what we are porvide in repos smile

Or, for example, people uses yaourt to search from AUR? big_smile

That's right but for example I don't use Yaourt to install packages manually from AUR I browse it by website wink


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#6 2009-07-31 18:50:37

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Re: Where people go on Archlinux.org

ahhh the wiki is not on top!

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#7 2009-07-31 19:11:38

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Re: Where people go on Archlinux.org

Doesn't this just count people with Internet Explorer & the Alexa toolbar?

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#8 2009-07-31 19:23:18

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Re: Where people go on Archlinux.org

Procyon wrote:

Doesn't this just count people with Internet Explorer & the Alexa toolbar?

You are partially correct . I wish I could delete the thread . Or maybe a site admin can give us concrete stats .

What is Traffic Rank?
The traffic rank is based on three months of aggregated historical traffic data from millions of Alexa Toolbar users and data obtained from other, diverse traffic data sources, and is a combined measure of page views and users (reach). As a first step, Alexa computes the reach and number of page views for all sites on the Web on a daily basis. The main Alexa traffic rank is based on a value derived from these two quantities averaged over time (so that the rank of a site reflects both the number of users who visit that site as well as the number of pages on the site viewed by those users). The three-month change is determined by comparing the site's current rank with its rank from three months ago. For example, on July 1, the three-month change would show the difference between the rank based on traffic during the first quarter of the year and the rank based on traffic during the second quarter.


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#9 2009-07-31 22:05:59

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Re: Where people go on Archlinux.org

As far as I know, traffic on the AUR is closer to that of the web forum.
I don't have the data to back this up unfortunately.

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#10 2009-08-01 00:08:31

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Re: Where people go on Archlinux.org

I'm not at all convinced by the results. Would make sense if it only tracks IE though.


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#11 2009-08-01 01:16:19

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Re: Where people go on Archlinux.org

There's no chance this is a close representation if it's monitors Internet Explorer (let alone Alexa), given that an overwhelming majority of people active in the community do not use Internet Explorer (considering they use Arch).


 

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#12 2009-08-01 05:45:32

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Re: Where people go on Archlinux.org

Maybe AUR's % could be higher but these numbers make sense.  Among other thing, they use pages hits which is easy to get on the forum. I don't know the number of forum posts per day, but it could be near 100.  So it means every user that reads the new post in the forums, gives it 100 hits per day very easily.  Try checking 100 pages at the other archlinux domains daily, it's almost impossible unless you are very, very involved.

SpeedVin: 8.8% for archlinux .org make sense. This includes the people using it as home page, plus it contains the package search, newsletter, front page news, ML archive, etc. So it should receive its share of the traffic.

Probably the AUR % is this  low because of the popularity of yaourt and other AUR helper tools. When it's used to update packages from AUR, the AUR lose some count hit (as I never used it, I assume that it can do automatic updates)

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#13 2009-08-01 07:52:51

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Re: Where people go on Archlinux.org

Square wrote:

There's no chance this is a close representation if it's monitors Internet Explorer (let alone Alexa), given that an overwhelming majority of people active in the community do not use Internet Explorer (considering they use Arch).

I agree, but that wouldn't in the slightest imply that everyone on these forums does not use IE. What I was suggesting is that this is taken from a very minimal sample size, and those who ARE using IE/Alexa to browse archlinux.org probably do so in response to a google query on a linux-related issue. This would lead them to the forums/wiki but almost never to the AUR and bug pages.


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#14 2009-08-01 19:10:41

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Re: Where people go on Archlinux.org

AUR is on a different machine, but it does have similar traffic to the BBS:

-rw-rw-r-- 1 root web     9.2M 2009-08-01 15:08 planet-access_log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root web     3.6M 2009-08-01 15:08 projects-access_log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root web     9.5M 2009-08-01 15:08 repos-access_log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root web     427M 2009-08-01 15:08 wiki-access_log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root web     107M 2009-08-01 15:08 bugs-access_log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root web     560M 2009-08-01 15:08 bbs-access_log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root web     260M 2009-08-01 15:08 access_log

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#15 2009-08-01 20:43:07

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Re: Where people go on Archlinux.org

toofishes wrote:

AUR is on a different machine, but it does have similar traffic to the BBS:

-rw-rw-r-- 1 root web     9.2M 2009-08-01 15:08 planet-access_log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root web     3.6M 2009-08-01 15:08 projects-access_log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root web     9.5M 2009-08-01 15:08 repos-access_log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root web     427M 2009-08-01 15:08 wiki-access_log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root web     107M 2009-08-01 15:08 bugs-access_log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root web     560M 2009-08-01 15:08 bbs-access_log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root web     260M 2009-08-01 15:08 access_log

Interesting numbers . The activity in the bug tracker is not that low after all .
It would be interesting too If stats by unique IP-addresses could be generated to see the actual fraction of the community participating in the bug tracker .

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#16 2009-08-01 21:25:56

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Re: Where people go on Archlinux.org

Well ... if people are using Arch (or other Linux distro) they most certainly not use IE and even less alexa (whatever that is, it sounds like spyware/trojan/virus or a big privacy concern) so those statistics are ... well ... kind of pointless.
As for the stats that toofishes provided, if they come from the server machines then you can't get more accurate than that can you tongue


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#17 2009-08-01 22:11:10

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Re: Where people go on Archlinux.org

This always comes up too, I've graphed some figures we can pull from our databases over the years: http://dev.archlinux.org/~dan/archgrowth.png

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#18 2009-08-02 17:10:27

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Re: Where people go on Archlinux.org

thefatprecious wrote:
Nezmer wrote:

The community is short of bug squashers , I figure .

Anyway , I just submitted a bug . Unfortunately , It's a feature request wink

One could also say Arch is short on bugs wink

There are no such things as bugs in Arch. Just undocumented features.

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#19 2009-08-02 22:50:14

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Re: Where people go on Archlinux.org

Well it might be inaccurate but that is pretty much the breakdown of how I spend my time on arhclinux.org. Cheers!

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