The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Demon · 2009-08-06 23:41:04

Nope, I've build mesa without those...

flamelab · 2009-08-06 23:54:42

Demon wrote:

Nope, I've build mesa without those...

I had errors during compiling (it wanted latest xextproto. It had a warning for that. And then an error occured that was libxext related)

Nevertheless, it has been built :)

KMS again (and 3D)

But!

1)No powersaving
2)Scrolling problem with firefox
3)Low performance on glxgears (~420 fps on my card but before I had double of theme. With the crappy fglrx, last year, I had 4500 fps (but it was too slow on everything else)

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Take the packages and PKGBUILDs (I have a 64bit machine)

http://adslgr64.tiven.org/temporary/KernelModeSetting/

Attention: r600-r700 users, mesa-git hasn't been built with r600 driver (see the package_ati-dri-git array). Build it by adding r600 down there and up in the configure array)

Last edited by flamelab (2009-08-07 00:16:02)

hunterthomson · 2009-08-07 02:37:16

So, let me get this straight. With this Open driver and all the stuff you have 3D? Can you play any games with this driver and stuff ?

Ranguvar · 2009-08-07 02:55:56

hunterthomson wrote:

So, let me get this straight. With this Open driver and all the stuff you have 3D? Can you play any games with this driver and stuff ?

It's getting there

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=n … &px=NzQyNg

Wintervenom · 2009-08-07 03:39:38

You can do compositing (maybe not Compiz quite yet, but it handles the X and Cairo composite managers fine) with the current driver on the R(S)600/700s without having rebuilding anything.

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guzz46 · 2009-08-07 03:46:25

does anyone have any idea when powersave features will be in the R600/700 open source drivers, i tried xf86-video-ati-git and enabled Force Low Power Mode but it made no difference.
my fan runs all the time if i use the open source drivers otherwise i would switch

hunterthomson · 2009-08-07 03:57:05

Ranguvar wrote:

It's getting there
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=n … &px=NzQyNg

Right on, well getting there at lest.

Just think in a year or so ATI will be "The" Graphics Card to get if your running Linux/BSD/Solaris and certainly if your running OpenBSD. The prospect of having a gaming graphic card that runs on OpenSource drivers would make ATI better to have then nVidia and their blob.

What a wonderful time that will be.... but until then ATI sucks ballz.

Last edited by hunterthomson (2009-08-07 04:04:06)

Wintervenom · 2009-08-07 05:35:27

Is that one year in real time or one year in AMD/ATi time? If it is the latter, multiply by three.

javum · 2009-08-07 11:30:18

Perry3D wrote:

libdricore.so must be in the libgl package.
Try this one: http://www.file-upload.net/download-181 … ar.gz.html

Yes. This package helps.
Now I have such strange output (IRQ's not enabled, falling back to busy waits: 2 18)

[javum@archie ~]$ glxinfo | grep OpenGL
IRQ's not enabled, falling back to busy waits: 2 18
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R600 (RV635 9598) 20090101  TCL
OpenGL version string: 1.4 Mesa 7.6-devel
OpenGL extensions:

and OpenGL is a little buggy

But... it works )

kensai · 2009-08-07 12:47:16

venky80 wrote:

anyone is planning to make a repository. for git ati drivers.....kensai?? I have mobility HD3670

Hehe, well I gave up on the catalyst repositories, because catalyst sucks, I am currently using the catalyst-leaked driver, which is working fine for now, but by the time it is released it will be greatly outdated. So I am really contemplating moving to the oss drivers when the new kernel and mesa have what it takes for it to perform better. So I can't promise I will make the repository.

But... If someone want to package all those drivers and the mesa stuff and the kernel 2.6.31 or some of this things, and want to send them to me I can make a repo with it.

Demon · 2009-08-07 12:52:00

flamelab wrote:

Take the packages and PKGBUILDs (I have a 64bit machine)
http://adslgr64.tiven.org/temporary/KernelModeSetting/

Thanks, but my system is 32 bit.

I'm trying to compile again but this time with latest libxext and xextproto. Last night I've successfully compiled xorg-server from git, but unfortunately, it doesn't work. Some ABI version mismatch with some modules, don't know exactly...

kensai · 2009-08-07 12:56:47

hunterthomson wrote:

Right on, well getting there at lest.
Just think in a year or so ATI will be "The" Graphics Card to get if your running Linux/BSD/Solaris and certainly if your running OpenBSD. The prospect of having a gaming graphic card that runs on OpenSource drivers would make ATI better to have then nVidia and their blob.
What a wonderful time that will be.... but until then ATI sucks ballz.

You are way optimistic man, we are talking about AMD/ATI here, they suck, they know it, and they don't care.

Last edited by kensai (2009-08-07 12:57:51)

Demon · 2009-08-07 13:05:01

I'm getting this error now, while compilling mesa-git:

radeon_common_context.c: In function 'radeonDestroyContext':
radeon_common_context.c:300: упозорење: неупотребљена променљива 'screen'
radeon_common_context.c: In function 'radeon_update_renderbuffers':
radeon_common_context.c:790: упозорење: имплицитна декларација функције 'radeon_bo_get_tiling'
radeon_common_context.c:791: грешка: 'RADEON_TILING_MACRO' недекларисано (прва употреба у овој функцији)
radeon_common_context.c:791: грешка: (Сваки недекларисани идентификатор пријављен је само једном
radeon_common_context.c:791: грешка: за сваку функцију у којој се јавља.)
radeon_common_context.c:793: грешка: 'RADEON_TILING_MICRO' недекларисано (прва употреба у овој функцији)
make[5]: *** [radeon_common_context.o] Error 1
make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/mladen/Programi/PKGBUILDs/x-git/mesa-git/src/mesa-build/src/mesa/drivers/dri/radeon'
make[4]: *** [subdirs] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/mladen/Programi/PKGBUILDs/x-git/mesa-git/src/mesa-build/src/mesa/drivers/dri'
make[3]: *** [default] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/mladen/Programi/PKGBUILDs/x-git/mesa-git/src/mesa-build/src/mesa/drivers'
make[2]: *** [driver_subdirs] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/mladen/Programi/PKGBUILDs/x-git/mesa-git/src/mesa-build/src/mesa'
make[1]: *** [subdirs] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mladen/Programi/PKGBUILDs/x-git/mesa-git/src/mesa-build/src'
make: *** [default] Error 1
==> ГРЕШКА: Прављење није успело.
Прекидам...

Anyone else, or it is just me?

flamelab · 2009-08-07 13:25:44

Can you please translate the russian messages, please ? (well, maybe they changed something upstream)

Last edited by flamelab (2009-08-07 13:26:07)

Demon · 2009-08-07 13:35:06

flamelab wrote:

Can you please translate the russian messages, please ? (well, maybe they changed something upstream)

Oops... I apologize. (It's Serbian, not Russian. )

radeon_common_context.c: In function 'radeonDestroyContext':
radeon_common_context.c:300: warning: unused variable 'screen'
radeon_common_context.c: In function 'radeon_update_renderbuffers':
radeon_common_context.c:790: warning: implicit declaration of function 'radeon_bo_get_tiling'
radeon_common_context.c:791: error: 'RADEON_TILING_MACRO' undeclared (first use in this function)
radeon_common_context.c:791: error: (Each undeclared identifier reported only once
radeon_common_context.c:791: error: for each function.)
radeon_common_context.c:793: error: 'RADEON_TILING_MICRO' undeclared (first use in this function)
make[5]: *** [radeon_common_context.o] Error 1
make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/mladen/Programi/PKGBUILDs/x-git/mesa-git/src/mesa-build/src/mesa/drivers/dri/radeon'
make[4]: *** [subdirs] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/mladen/Programi/PKGBUILDs/x-git/mesa-git/src/mesa-build/src/mesa/drivers/dri'
make[3]: *** [default] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/mladen/Programi/PKGBUILDs/x-git/mesa-git/src/mesa-build/src/mesa/drivers'
make[2]: *** [driver_subdirs] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/mladen/Programi/PKGBUILDs/x-git/mesa-git/src/mesa-build/src/mesa'
make[1]: *** [subdirs] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mladen/Programi/PKGBUILDs/x-git/mesa-git/src/mesa-build/src'
make: *** [default] Error 1
==> ERROR: make failed.
Прекидам...

flamelab · 2009-08-07 13:46:51

Demon wrote:

Oops... I apologize. (It's Serbian, not Russian. )

Oops, sorry!

radeon_common_context.c: In function 'radeonDestroyContext':
radeon_common_context.c:300: warning: unused variable 'screen'
radeon_common_context.c: In function 'radeon_update_renderbuffers':
radeon_common_context.c:790: warning: implicit declaration of function 'radeon_bo_get_tiling'
radeon_common_context.c:791: error: 'RADEON_TILING_MACRO' undeclared (first use in this function)
radeon_common_context.c:791: error: (Each undeclared identifier reported only once
radeon_common_context.c:791: error: for each function.)
radeon_common_context.c:793: error: 'RADEON_TILING_MICRO' undeclared (first use in this function)
make[5]: *** [radeon_common_context.o] Error 1
make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/mladen/Programi/PKGBUILDs/x-git/mesa-git/src/mesa-build/src/mesa/drivers/dri/radeon'
make[4]: *** [subdirs] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/mladen/Programi/PKGBUILDs/x-git/mesa-git/src/mesa-build/src/mesa/drivers/dri'
make[3]: *** [default] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/mladen/Programi/PKGBUILDs/x-git/mesa-git/src/mesa-build/src/mesa/drivers'
make[2]: *** [driver_subdirs] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/mladen/Programi/PKGBUILDs/x-git/mesa-git/src/mesa-build/src/mesa'
make[1]: *** [subdirs] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mladen/Programi/PKGBUILDs/x-git/mesa-git/src/mesa-build/src'
make: *** [default] Error 1
==> ERROR: make failed.
Прекидам...

Hmm, that's with xextproto-git/libxext-git ? Try again with the "stable" versions. I think that mesa will ask for the latest xextproto, so I think that error is libxext related.

Demon · 2009-08-07 14:05:48

Finally! I've installed libdrm-git, with "--enable-radeon-experimental-api". Success...

Last edited by Demon (2009-08-07 14:43:00)

Demon · 2009-08-07 17:07:39

Wow, I've managed to compile and install xorg-server from git - everything fine, loads veryyyy fast, but unfortunately, like stable version it crashes on logout (when using KMS kernel).

hunterthomson · 2009-08-08 06:58:50

Wintervenom wrote:

Is that one year in real time or one year in AMD/ATi time? If it is the latter, multiply by three.

Owe ATI time of course

hunterthomson · 2009-08-08 07:02:54

kensai wrote:

hunterthomson wrote:
Right on, well getting there at lest.
Just think in a year or so ATI will be "The" Graphics Card to get if your running Linux/BSD/Solaris and certainly if your running OpenBSD. The prospect of having a gaming graphic card that runs on OpenSource drivers would make ATI better to have then nVidia and their blob.
What a wonderful time that will be.... but until then ATI sucks ballz.
You are way optimistic man, we are talking about AMD/ATI here, they suck, they know it, and they don't care.

Right that is why they will finally be good when Novel is making the drivers and they will be Open so ATI cards will work out of the box. The people they have making the Catalyst suck. Already 2D is better in the Open driver from Novel then the Catalyst so I bet the 3D will be better too. The Open drivers are far more stable too.

Last edited by hunterthomson (2009-08-08 07:08:23)

handy · 2009-08-08 07:42:06

The Open drivers are working fantastically well for me in 2D on my HD2600 Pro.

It really is an interesting turn around to see that in the not too distant future ATi's GPU's with their excellent 3D will become the darling of the FOSS set.

Who would'a thunk it?

hunterthomson · 2009-08-08 10:28:41

Ya, I guess in the end ATI made a good move just making Open drivers instead of trying to fix the Catalyst. Just starting from scratch will produce a far better product for sure, though it takes a long time. Also, BSD and Solaris were never in the future for ATI but Open Source changes all that. ATI will go from hardly working to plug n' play.

Last edited by hunterthomson (2009-08-08 10:32:11)

Tel_Janin · 2009-08-09 02:27:00

I've got a question: What happened to the ati drivers a few weeks ago? Up until then I could play TF2 with my Mobility Radeon 3400 (r600). After updating with pacman, my video went to hell, and a few reinstalls later I'm still stuck with the software rasterizer.

What was the magic version number that worked? Why did an 'upgrade' cause so much hell?

handy · 2009-08-09 02:52:46

AMD/ATi seem to not be able to keep up with the speed of Arch updates.

Their drivers have been very erratic for the last 6 months or so, in my experience.

The good news is that the open drivers are really improving fast at the moment. Their 2D is the best I've ever experienced & the 3D is catching up.

Have a reed of the AUR Catalyst comments for more details?

Ranguvar · 2009-08-09 05:54:52

The Intel drivers are gonna be fantastic on Linux, *BSD, etc. soon too. They're putting a lot of hard work into them, and I give them credit for that. I hope they get into the higher-end 3D graphics as well.

In a way, AMD's shitty Catalyst may have helped F/LOSS in general in the (very) long run If they would have had fairly decent drivers like NVIDIA, there wouldn't be such a huge demand for open source drivers that can always be fixed in time for new kernels, etc.

I hope that when I build a new PC in a few years, I'll be able to confidently buy AMD (or Intel, but I doubt they'll do high-end 3D soon if at all). Right now I have a 9600GT, which can only barely do any 3D if I use the Free Nouveau drivers. I want Free, and I want KMS

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