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#1 2004-08-10 11:48:11

gvre
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Would you donate for AMD 64 arch?

Would you donate for AMD 64 arch?

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#2 2004-08-10 15:55:50

Dusty
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Re: Would you donate for AMD 64 arch?

Possibly donations for current server costs would be more appreciated...

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#3 2004-08-10 16:41:58

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Re: Would you donate for AMD 64 arch?

Dusty wrote:

Possibly donations for current server costs would be more appreciated...

Exactly. I am all for the development of ports to different architectures but not if weakens current development in some way.

I will only donate to official development. So if you want money or time from me it better be an officially supported project.


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#4 2004-08-16 08:49:23

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Re: Would you donate for AMD 64 arch?

Obviously the install base for most computers is 32bit i686. Over the next year or so Intel will get there x86-64 chips out the door for the general public. I would say the earlier Arch linux adops the new instruction set the better. Gives them more experience with working with it. There is no getting around the fact that everything will be x86-64 for general consumers over the next year or so as the technology gets adopted.

By the end of 2005 we will have single cpu's with dual cores built on them using the x86-64 technology. Anyone by that time still using straight 32bit will be severly outdated. I can only see schools and buisiness's using straight 32bit at that time because of cost to upgrade.

I checked maybe, but will support it, if it is an official part of Arch.

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#5 2004-08-16 20:46:05

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Re: Would you donate for AMD 64 arch?

once my PC is outdated that is it for my PC experience. so hopefully i686 will keep going. i am satisfied with my computer it is fast eneough and 64-bit stuff is way too expensive unless I spring for getting a g5 that way i would save a bit.


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#6 2004-08-16 21:33:05

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Re: Would you donate for AMD 64 arch?

Seems like MNKyDeth strongly underestimates the lifetime of a pc... And expecting people to upgrade to the newest within a half year is also a bit naive. Perhaps MNKyDeth could donate his "old" hardware to the Arch developers...

(Running a 800@600 Mhz PIII here.)

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#7 2004-08-23 03:32:22

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Re: Would you donate for AMD 64 arch?

I'll probably be getting a 64-bit laptop next summer as my p2@400mHz is about 2 more hardware failures away from complete inoperability.  It's not that I'm getting it just for its 64-bitness, but rather I'd prefer to get a higher end AMD this time.  But if I see a (somewhat) maintained 64-bit repo, I'll gladly donate.


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#8 2004-08-27 19:05:32

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Re: Would you donate for AMD 64 arch?

When I next have money for a donation, it's probably going to Arch, and I would hope that it doesn't go towards 64bit development.  We don't have any real need for the extra precision or RAM on the desktop yet, though I'm sure the extra memory was much needed on the server and workstation front.  Not that the K8 isn't an excellent chip, it's just that it's the ondie memory controller and extra registers which make it so.

I agree that MNKyDeth underestimates the lifespan of your average non-Windows pc.  I'm also running a P3 600@800 and am only looking to upgrade because it's too big and too loud, and it will continue it's life, Linux and all, at a local high school.  For the record, my next purchase will be a Semperon SFF or Pentium M ultraportable, so I still won't have a 64bit CPU for a good 5-8 years.

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#9 2004-08-27 21:54:11

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Re: Would you donate for AMD 64 arch?

64-bit isn't going to get pushed that hard, its just there for when everyone makes the move. I'm going to say 2008 or so will be when x86-64 is mainstream. We really need to scrap x86 altogether though  big_smile


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#10 2004-09-08 20:35:52

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Re: Would you donate for AMD 64 arch?

Yes, if maintained as good as the i686 tree. I'd rather have a good i686 tree, than a poorly maintained x86-64 tree.

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#11 2004-09-08 20:51:43

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Re: Would you donate for AMD 64 arch?

as soon as i run a 64bit machine, i will help with a x86-64 or ppc64 tree ;-)


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#12 2004-09-09 03:52:59

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Re: Would you donate for AMD 64 arch?

I'm running an Athlon 64 3200+. I would use a 64Bit ArchLinux if there were 64Bit drivers for my AVM Fritz!Card DSL and ATi Radeon 96000XT :?.

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#13 2004-09-28 16:20:44

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Re: Would you donate for AMD 64 arch?

ActionNews wrote:

Radeon 96000XT

Is it a new model from ATI?


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#14 2004-10-01 17:45:14

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Re: Would you donate for AMD 64 arch?

I'm currently procuring parts for a Athlon 64 rig.  I'd greatly love to see Arch with an x86-64 port as I'll be running 2 gigs of ram or so... Once I get the new rig I'll even offer up compile time on the comp so long as I don't have to write packages....

Donations would happen as well... probably on the order of 25-50 US dollars...

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#15 2004-10-09 07:17:54

sweiss
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Re: Would you donate for AMD 64 arch?

I was wondering, what does it take to produce a 64bit version of a package? Is it just a recompile with certain flags or is there something else to do?

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#16 2004-10-10 20:26:51

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Re: Would you donate for AMD 64 arch?

gvre wrote:

Would you donate for AMD 64 arch?

yes, i would. I have an amd64 working with gentoo. But my interest is, to do it with archlinux.

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#17 2004-10-13 19:24:57

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Re: Would you donate for AMD 64 arch?

I'd gladly help out on any AMD 64 Arch project.

The first stumbling block I've come across so far is that Arch's ABS requires cvsup. cvsup requires other libraries that cannot run in 64bit. So I cannot compile Arch packages on a 64bit system.

Any idea's how to get over this hurdle??

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#18 2005-01-03 07:59:50

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Re: Would you donate for AMD 64 arch?

I wouldn't, for the exact reasons Sarah noted.


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#19 2005-01-05 01:12:18

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Re: Would you donate for AMD 64 arch?

Maybe later on I would support the 64 bit Arch (I have a 754 3000) but I'm still learning 32 bit programs.  At the rate I'm going it will be quite a while before I learn enough to jump ship for the 64 bit.  I only figured it might keep my system viable a little longer in these changing times.  wink


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#20 2005-01-05 10:48:35

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Re: Would you donate for AMD 64 arch?

If a 64 bit version of arch is not being done, can anybody that knows how to do it write a wiki or post somewhere how to do it, please?

And how to check if it has been done correctly?

Or just how to check if it has done correctly.

Thanks

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