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lestoil

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Registered: 2005-08-09

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new kernel(8/13/08) and hal notification

After yesterday's kernel/system upgrade I got message to remove hal from etc/rc.conf as it is deprecated, or being deprecated.  (Ubuntu 9.10-alpha release notes also gave similar info about hal) 
If this is so what is replacing hal? --udev new version+?  How will that affect # 'pacman -S hal' step for automatic xorg setup during installation(August iso version); and what daemon, if any, will replace hal in the daemon array of /etc/rc.conf?
I want to thank the Archer's for the great wikis:)  KDE-4.3 is beautiful!

djszapi

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Re: new kernel(8/13/08) and hal notification

Hello lestoil!

Do you use the testing branch ? My system is up-to-date in this momment, and hal exists too.

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lestoil

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Re: new kernel(8/13/08) and hal notification

djszapi I am using standard 32-bit i686 version.  I was wondering about message during update of 8/13 that said hal is being deprecated(?) to remove it from daemon array of /etc/rc.conf. Unless I misunderstood. Hal  is still in my /etc/rc.conf.
   Putting a !hal in the daemons list on reboot, got me to login window without mouse or keyboard activity.       Using Mandriva's root gedit I removed the !(from hal) and my system reboots with keyboard and mouse again functioning. Just to be sure I checked with pacman and xf86-input-keyboard and -mouse were missing.  They were re-installed.
I also have an /etc/rc.conf.pacnew which is like the fresh install file.  Wonder when that will take-over?

Misfit138

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Registered: 2006-11-27

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Re: new kernel(8/13/08) and hal notification

hal is eventually being 'chopped into pieces'. Some of its functions are to be handled by udev and the kernel itself.
Google for more I suppose.

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flamelab

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Re: new kernel(8/13/08) and hal notification

@lestoil: HAL will be deprecated only for GNOME 2.28, which will use Devicekit-* packages. Are you sure that you had an update in Arch that "told" you that you "have" to remove HAL from rc.conf ?

Last edited by flamelab (2009-08-15 16:31:06)

loafer

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Re: new kernel(8/13/08) and hal notification

Check in /var/log/pacman.log for the update, the message should be there.

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lestoil

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Re: new kernel(8/13/08) and hal notification

Thanx Misfit138, flamelab and loafer for info. Message did show during update(I write everything down during update) but it doesn't show in /var/log/pacman.log.  I'll leave system alone and keep up with Arch news. Thanx again.

Last edited by lestoil (2009-08-15 17:21:47)