xorg fails to start, blackscreen with immovable mouse

amranu · 2009-08-15 15:53:48

Since the last xorg-server update this happened, though I downgraded the package and it didn't fix it.

cemsbr · 2009-08-15 16:08:09

I was having this problem and upgrading xorg-server to 1.6.3-3 solved it. Today I saw an update to xf86-input-evdev (2.2.4). Have you tried to launch xorg after this update?

amranu · 2009-08-15 16:21:49

I have both those updates, and have tried starting X with both of them. the 1.6.3-3 upgrade is the one that seems to have broke things

cemsbr · 2009-08-15 18:34:01

What's your graphic board?

amranu · 2009-08-15 18:54:06

I'm using an ATI 4870

djszapi · 2009-08-15 21:52:25

Hello Amranu!

Did you try to boot your PC in runlevel 3, so in console mode, and startx manually? Is there any error output on the console or in some related log files ? Which kernel/driver do you try to use ?

AdrenalineJunky · 2009-08-15 22:02:37

i've had the same problem once or twice - i booted to console and re-installed catalyst and all was well.

Raisuli · 2009-08-15 23:40:21

I have the same problem as Amranu, also the same graphics card. The fglrx module does not get loaded during boot, error messages says "unknown module fglrx.ko". I have reinstalled catalyst, didn't change anything. X exists with the message that there are errors in xinit.

Hope this is not considered a hijack of the thread as it seems to be the same problem.

djszapi · 2009-08-16 07:26:47

"X exists with the message that there are errors in xinit." -> Amranu: what's in your ~/.xinitrc file ?

gnud · 2009-08-16 10:31:01

I also have this (incredibly annoying) problem, with an ATI HD4350 after the latest update.

This has nothing to do with my .xinitrc - the same problem occurs whether I try to start kdm, pure X, or use startx.

This has something to do with the new xorg-server and the catalyst driver.

Raisuli · 2009-08-16 10:56:37

Same here. Using startx oder slim doesn't work either.

vacant · 2009-08-16 11:16:03

AdrenalineJunky wrote:

i've had the same problem once or twice - i booted to console and re-installed catalyst and all was well.

Was it necessary to reinstall catalyst? That package just contains the license and the kernel module. I thought it's just catalyst-utils that needs reinstalling after Xorg updates due to some lib??? stuff getting overwritten?

Raisuli · 2009-08-16 16:03:30

@vacant: that's true. Usually I had to reinstall catalyst-utils after a xserver update because of libs getting overridden by libgl, I believe. It's not working this time.

AdrenalineJunky · 2009-08-16 20:35:48

hmm, didn't know that - i had just re-installed both of them.

good to know.

gnud · 2009-08-16 21:09:18

Well - I tried reinstalling both of the catalyst packages and general fiddling around a lot, so some of that might have fixed it. But as an aside, make sure that your xorg.conf doesn't use the "kbd" driver for your keyboard, but rather the "evdev" driver. I suspect that aticonfig did this - I can't imagine that `X -configure` did.

Raisuli · 2009-08-17 10:53:20

Hm, still not working here. Did you run ati-config after reinstalling catalyst or could you explain some of the fiddling you did? I'm at a loss right now.

vacant · 2009-08-17 11:10:10

Raisuli wrote:

after a xserver update because of libs getting overridden by libgl

That's the one, libGL etc. xorg-server depends on libgl which should be removed with a "pacman -Rd" before installing catalyst & catalyst-utils as catalyst-utils has it's own version: PKGBUILD provides=('libgl' 'catalyst-utils').

Raisuli · 2009-08-17 11:43:15

I've removed libgl with pacman -Rd and reinstalled catalyst-utils. X starts now, but the fglrx module cannot be found during boot. Any ideas?

vacant · 2009-08-17 13:08:16

The fglrx module is obviously in the "catalyst" package which installs it to /lib/modules/2.6.30-ARCH/video/fglrx.ko. The ".INSTALL" in that package does just a depmod for kernel 2.6.30-ARCH. So if the module is there, you're running that kernel, then a depmod should do it.

Raisuli · 2009-08-17 16:09:00

Thank you for your help, vacant, finally have a working graphics driver, though I'm unsure why. I reinstalled catalyst and did a depmod earlier, but this time I removed everything related to the driver from the system, including fglrx.ko and /usr/share/licenses/catalyst/ATI.LICENSE.TXT. After that I reinstalled catalyst & catalyst-utils. That did the trick.

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