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jelly

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From: /dev/null

Registered: 2008-06-10

Posts: 714

Re: Midori rocks

Since this thread is all over the place anyway...

uzbl is currently my favorite browser for my netbook. It simply feels good to operate. But, I use FF with vimperator on that machine because waiting for web pages to load on a 10Mbps (stable) connection just doesn't seem right to me.

True  and that's probaly because much Arch users are looking for a new lightweight KISS replacement for FF

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andre.ramaciotti

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From: Brazil

Registered: 2007-04-06

Posts: 649

Re: Midori rocks

I measured only Firefox 3.5.2 and Midori 0.1.9. I'm running Arch x64 and it's up to date.
Midori scored 2370 and Firefox scored 901

Yeah, but in the world of actual browsing and not statistics, FF is much faster than the Webkit browsers that use libsoup when HTTP pipelining is enabled. Far faster. Midori and uzbl are painful on my netbook, but FF works great. When libsoup gets HTTP pipelining, or another HTTP back end comes along (that's not libcurl), I'm sure that situation will be different.

Sure. IIRC, midori doesn't have a disk cache, so firefox opens pages that I visit often faster.

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skottish

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Registered: 2006-06-16

Posts: 7,942

Re: Midori rocks

I measured only Firefox 3.5.2 and Midori 0.1.9. I'm running Arch x64 and it's up to date.
Midori scored 2370 and Firefox scored 901

Yeah, but in the world of actual browsing and not statistics, FF is much faster than the Webkit browsers that use libsoup when HTTP pipelining is enabled. Far faster. Midori and uzbl are painful on my netbook, but FF works great. When libsoup gets HTTP pipelining, or another HTTP back end comes along (that's not libcurl), I'm sure that situation will be different.

Sure. IIRC, midori doesn't have a disk cache, so firefox opens pages that I visit often faster.

I have the disc cache disabled in Firefox because it slows it down. It's one of the recommended tweaks that I found a long time ago.

Anikom15

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From: United States

Registered: 2009-04-30

Posts: 836

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Re: Midori rocks

No love for SeaMonkey?

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andre.ramaciotti

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From: Brazil

Registered: 2007-04-06

Posts: 649

Re: Midori rocks

@skottish
I think it depends on your connection speed, but I'll try desabling it. Thanks for the tip.

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AndyRTR

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From: Magdeburg/Germany

Registered: 2005-10-07

Posts: 1,641

Re: Midori rocks

I have the disc cache disabled in Firefox because it slows it down. It's one of the recommended tweaks that I found a long time ago.

using a quick ssd is the perfect solution for fastest disc cache possible, running a X80-m here

Wintervenom

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Registered: 2008-08-20

Posts: 1,011

Re: Midori rocks

I have the disc cache disabled in Firefox because it slows it down. It's one of the recommended tweaks that I found a long time ago.

using a quick ssd is the perfect solution for fastest disc cache possible, running a X80-m here

Even better -- bind-mount /tmp to /dev/shm/tmp.

oli

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From: 127.0.0.1

Registered: 2006-02-07

Posts: 164

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Re: Midori rocks

Yeah, but in the world of actual browsing and not statistics, FF is much faster than the Webkit browsers that use libsoup when HTTP pipelining is enabled. Far faster. Midori and uzbl are painful on my netbook, but FF works great. When libsoup gets HTTP pipelining, or another HTTP back end comes along (that's not libcurl), I'm sure that situation will be different.

Sure. IIRC, midori doesn't have a disk cache, so firefox opens pages that I visit often faster.

I have the disc cache disabled in Firefox because it slows it down. It's one of the recommended tweaks that I found a long time ago.

But the disadvantage is a much higher memory consumption.

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andre.ramaciotti

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From: Brazil

Registered: 2007-04-06

Posts: 649

Re: Midori rocks

I have the disc cache disabled in Firefox because it slows it down. It's one of the recommended tweaks that I found a long time ago.

using a quick ssd is the perfect solution for fastest disc cache possible, running a X80-m here

Even better -- bind-mount /tmp to /dev/shm/tmp.

We're talking about firefox cache that is in ~/.firefox, so it doesn't make a lot of sense bind-mounting your /tmp directory.

@oli
Indeed, it increased a lot.

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Themaister

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From: Trondheim, Norway

Registered: 2008-07-21

Posts: 652

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Re: Midori rocks

Symlinks are your friend

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tadzik

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From: &tadzik

Registered: 2009-07-17

Posts: 91

Re: Midori rocks

Really nice browser. I've tried it months ago on gentoo, and was still unstable as hell (or was it webkit?), now it works pretty fine. Almost as good as chromium : >

descendent87

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Registered: 2009-07-23

Posts: 105

Re: Midori rocks

Tried midori ages ago an it was unusable, just tried it again and it seg faults as soon as it opens (trying to load google).
Tired the git version from AUR aswell and it's the same

AndyRTR

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From: Magdeburg/Germany

Registered: 2005-10-07

Posts: 1,641

Re: Midori rocks

Tried midori ages ago an it was unusable, just tried it again and it seg faults as soon as it opens (trying to load google).
Tired the git version from AUR aswell and it's the same

cleanup your local configuration files. they may have changed.

sheep

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Registered: 2009-08-21

Posts: 2

Re: Midori rocks

using a quick ssd is the perfect solution for fastest disc cache possible, running a X80-m here

Even better -- bind-mount /tmp to /dev/shm/tmp.

We're talking about firefox cache that is in ~/.firefox, so it doesn't make a lot of sense bind-mounting your /tmp directory.

you could also configure firefox to drop cache at /tmp where you might have mountet a tmpfs, as i do have.
browse to about:config and create the key with name browser.cache.disk.parent_directory and the value is /tmp then for example.

Where does midori drop its cached pictures? ~/cache/.midora/ only contains icons/.
Does midori cache pictures?

rwd

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Registered: 2009-02-08

Posts: 664

Re: Midori rocks

Does anyone know how to get rid of the new 'compact menu'? I always hide the menubar because I don't use it. Now it keeps popping up without an option to turn it completely off.

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I meant the 'bookmarkbar popup', not the 'compact menu'. I see it has been removed again in v0.1.9.  I guess other people where annoyed by this popup as well.
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Last edited by rwd (2009-08-24 12:50:44)

descendent87

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Registered: 2009-07-23

Posts: 105

Re: Midori rocks

Tried midori ages ago an it was unusable, just tried it again and it seg faults as soon as it opens (trying to load google).
Tired the git version from AUR aswell and it's the same

cleanup your local configuration files. they may have changed.

This is on a fresh install, tried changing settings aswell but still keeps happening. Going to file a bug report about it to the devs

andre.ramaciotti

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From: Brazil

Registered: 2007-04-06

Posts: 649

Re: Midori rocks

Even better -- bind-mount /tmp to /dev/shm/tmp.

We're talking about firefox cache that is in ~/.firefox, so it doesn't make a lot of sense bind-mounting your /tmp directory.

you could also configure firefox to drop cache at /tmp where you might have mountet a tmpfs, as i do have.
browse to about:config and create the key with name browser.cache.disk.parent_directory and the value is /tmp then for example.

Where does midori drop its cached pictures? ~/cache/.midora/ only contains icons/.
Does midori cache pictures?

IIRC, no, it doesn't.

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descendent87

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Registered: 2009-07-23

Posts: 105

Re: Midori rocks

Well everything else is working fine apart from iGoogle and when you try to go to www.myspace.com you get redirected to the mobile site?

Army

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Registered: 2007-12-07

Posts: 1,784

Re: Midori rocks

It's because myspace doesn't know Midori ;-) Simply check out the config and you'll find a menu where you can tell Midori to show itself as e.g. Firefox to the outside world. Then myspace will work as usual

I personally must say I pretty enjoy the mobile site, it's so much faster and only for checking comments or mails on myspace, it's much better than the bloated version. And you always stay logged in on the mobile site, which doesn't work on the default site.

Last edited by Army (2009-08-22 08:39:22)

syn

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Registered: 2009-08-22

Posts: 43

Re: Midori rocks

I can't handle browsing anymore without ad-block. I'll stick to Firefox.

descendent87

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Registered: 2009-07-23

Posts: 105

Re: Midori rocks

It's because myspace doesn't know Midori ;-) Simply check out the config and you'll find a menu where you can tell Midori to show itself as e.g. Firefox to the outside world. Then myspace will work as usual

I personally must say I pretty enjoy the mobile site, it's so much faster and only for checking comments or mails on myspace, it's much better than the bloated version. And you always stay logged in on the mobile site, which doesn't work on the default site.

This happens on any webkit browser (except chromium/google chrome), just tried kazehakase and uzbl which both do the same. Have reported as a bug to myspace

I can't handle browsing anymore without ad-block. I'll stick to Firefox.

Same here, midori is nice and very fast but without adblock and saving passwords I keep coming back to firefox

Last edited by descendent87 (2009-08-23 17:43:52)

makimaki

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From: Ireland

Registered: 2009-04-02

Posts: 109

Re: Midori rocks

I can't handle browsing anymore without ad-block. I'll stick to Firefox.

Try privoxy, works with any browser, I find it much better than adblock. (look at page 5 of this thread)

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drtoki

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Registered: 2009-07-22

Posts: 95

Re: Midori rocks

Try privoxy, works with any browser, I find it much better than adblock. (look at page 5 of this thread)

Look at page 5 of what thread? This thread is only at page 3 at the moment..

I don't know about privoxy being better, but I find privoxy + tor works just fine for me.

EDIT: Actually, nevermind.. I just realized it's probably due to the difference in our posts per page setting.

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sheep

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Registered: 2009-08-21

Posts: 2

Re: Midori rocks

i think this is the post he wanted to point at:
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 20#p541220

rwd

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Registered: 2009-02-08

Posts: 664

Re: Midori rocks

You can also use a  custom hosts file combined with a  stylesheet just like with Firefox. In fact you can just link your firefox stylesheets as long as the link filename ends with ".user.css". I find that it blocks about 80% of what the adblock extension does but is much less resource intensive. See for example someonewhocares.org/hosts/ and floppymoose.com.