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#1 2005-01-10 18:00:19

Insight_45
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Registered: 2004-12-13
Posts: 40

ATI 9000 and acceleration

I have looked at the threads about ati video module. I have tried to follow some of the howto, replaced xfree with xorg, gotten the latest RPM ati driver. I had lots of problems and error messages.

Before I try to resolve the errors I got, I wanted to ask:

1) Is it possible to get my ATI 9000 card to work with the 3D acceleration. Did somebody get a similar card to work.

2) Is the only way to get a card to work, is to buy an Nvidia

3) Does someone has a package built that they have made public somewhere

ATI says they want to be as friendly to Linux as Nvidia so aren't they letting someone build a package and make it public:
From http://www.clubic.com/actualite-17460-a … linux.html  (in French) which basically says ATI tripled the number of developers on Linux in the last 6 months and "ATI thus hopes to offer a Linux support to the level of that of its competitor of always, NVIDIA"

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#2 2005-01-10 18:27:13

morphus
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From: Braunschweig
Registered: 2003-08-06
Posts: 145

Re: ATI 9000 and acceleration

I suggest you to wait; in the mid of january ati wants to release new drivers for linux

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#3 2005-01-10 21:39:59

cascat
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Registered: 2004-02-24
Posts: 62

Re: ATI 9000 and acceleration

ATI 9000 should have 3D acceleration using the drivers in Xorg 6.8. I have a Radeon 9200 and use the open source drivers for 3D.  The 9200 is the last card in the Radeon series that has 3D acceleration not requiring proprietary drivers.  Run xorgcfg -textmode and select "ati" for the driver.  When X starts, the driver will select the proper sub-module for your card.  Search the forums for examples of xorg.conf to add any additional driver options.  Be sure "glx" and "dri" is loaded and the "DRI' section is set up with the right permissions.  There are several examples in the forum.  Good Luck!

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#4 2005-01-11 02:14:39

qwerty
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Registered: 2004-12-17
Posts: 183

Re: ATI 9000 and acceleration

I've made my ATI radeon 9100 work with ati accelerated drivers, you have to downgrade xorg to 6.7.0, you can find the package either on ftp.archlinux.org/incoming or on http://files.subpop.net/, then you have to add the following lines to your /etc/pacman.conf:

IgnorePkg   = xorg

(in GENERAL OPTIONS, just to avoid pacman upgrade xorg to the newer version every time you perform a pacman -Syu)

[link]
Server = ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/tur/link

(at the end of pacman.conf to add the link's repository, there you can find arch packages for ati-drivers).



After u made this just perform 
pacman -Syu
pacman -S ati-drivers

At this point u can run fglrxconfig that will guide you to build your xserver configuration file. rename it xorg.conf and move it to /etc/X11 and you've (almost) done, after that u only have to build your own gtk2 package because of the missing library deps like libXfixes in xorg 6.7.0 but it's very easy, just perform the following steps (you need to be root!):

 abs
cd /var/abs/lib/gtk2/
makepkg
pacman -U gtk2-2.6.1-2.pkg.tar.gz

That's all... to check if everything went all right just run xterm (or some other terminal under X) and execute fglrxinfo, if your output is something like that u've done smile

[qwerty@CiciulO ~]$ fglrxinfo
display: :0.0  screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9100 DDR Generic
OpenGL version string: 1.3.4641 (X4.3.0-3.14.1)

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#5 2005-01-11 14:08:10

Insight_45
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Registered: 2004-12-13
Posts: 40

Re: ATI 9000 and acceleration

Thanks Cascat, I tried but could not get it to run. Although the xorg.conf seamed to be set properly(H30-95, V50-120), the display reported that the xserver tried to input too low of H and V frequencies (18-22 Hz) Funny thing that the xorgcfg did not list the ATI cards.

I will try Qwerty's almost Howto and report back. Wish me luck.

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#6 2005-01-11 17:41:43

Insight_45
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Registered: 2004-12-13
Posts: 40

Re: ATI 9000 and acceleration

Thanks a lot, it works. The ati driver fglrx is used and I have acceleration now. cool! My nephew will be glad he can play games like tuxracer.

I have two minor issue which I can live with:
xine stays with a black screen. But the other video aps like kaffeine works (and uses xine to my knowledge)
there is a phantom a few inchs to the right of the running aps like fgl_glxgears
so I am still happy with this


An other problem I can not resolve is when I do pacman -Syu, it gives an error.  here it is:
# pacman -Syu
...
        error: unresolvable dependencies:
        ati-drivers-module-kernel26: requires kernel26=2.6.10-1

But then if i use Q I get:

# pacman -Q ati-drivers-module-kernel26
             ati-drivers-module-kernel26 3.14.1-2
# pacman -Q kernel26
             kernel26 2.6.10-1

So to me, it looks like the dependencies are correct. Is there something I should reset to make the dependencies be OK

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

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#7 2005-01-11 19:51:50

qwerty
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Registered: 2004-12-17
Posts: 183

Re: ATI 9000 and acceleration

You cannot upgrade to kernel 2.6.10-2 because kernel package 2.6.10-1 is required from ati drivers... it's very easy to fix this, just go to

http://xentac.net/tur/tags/link/ati-dri … -kernel26/

Download both the 3 files you find there, place them in the same directory, edit PKGBUILD and change the line:

kernelpkgver=2.6.10-1

in

kernelpkgver=2.6.10-2

then simply run makepkg to build your own package and pacman -U  install it smile

BYE

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#8 2005-01-11 23:59:10

qwerty
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Registered: 2004-12-17
Posts: 183

Re: ATI 9000 and acceleration

... Anyway i've mailed link to fix this, probably he'll do it in a few time.

Bye

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#9 2005-01-12 01:33:56

Insight_45
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Registered: 2004-12-13
Posts: 40

Re: ATI 9000 and acceleration

OK now I understand that pacman is trying to upgrade the kernel package, and it is this that makes the error. I will try to do the ignore package call in pacman.conf

I will also try the stuff you gave, to upgrade. A first try gave me something like: xorg <= 6.7.0 while I have 6.7.0-1

Thanks for the help. This made me discover the other than "current and extra" repositories. Very fun stuff. I did apcupsd, realplayer and mozplugger

Thanks again

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#10 2005-01-12 21:59:20

qwerty
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Registered: 2004-12-17
Posts: 183

Re: ATI 9000 and acceleration

As the kernel modules path hasn't changed in kernel 2.6.10-2 (it's always/lib/modules/2.6.10-ARCH/)  i think that you can try to remove ati-drivers-module-kernel26 package and then perform

pacman -Syu
pacman -Sdf  ati-drivers-module-kernel26


.. i haven't tryed because i'm actually using a nitro kernel but i think it should work

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#11 2005-01-13 13:34:14

Insight_45
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Registered: 2004-12-13
Posts: 40

Re: ATI 9000 and acceleration

Thanks, I did the upgrade like you wrote and it works. 

The 'force' and 'nodeps' was OK  So two issues are resolved, ati driver install and kernel upgrade to 2.6.10-2

Here is the info on my system now with pacman -Q:
============================
   kernel26 2.6.10-2
   ati-drivers-module-kernel26 3.14.1-2

Here are the steps I did:
==============
In /etc/pacman.conf I removed the line ignoring the kernel upgrade
#IgnorePkg   = kernel26

I executed the remove of the ati-driver-module:
pacman -R  ati-drivers-module-kernel26

Did the kernel upgrade:
pacman -Syu

Executed the lilo
lilo -v

Added the ati-driver module package:
pacman -Sdf ati-drivers-module-kernel26

And rebooted

Thanks again to all !! and to you qwerty.

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