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#1 2009-08-28 08:21:53

ashleenaidoo
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Openbox visual look grainy

Hi guys,

Trust that everyone is well?

Ok, managed to get openbox installed and working, but everything is very grainy from a visual point of view and not looking right. I think that my ati driver which i installed in not working quiet well. What can i do to get this fixed?

Ash

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#2 2009-08-28 08:35:57

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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

Maybe the DPI settings? In any case, we need more information.

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#3 2009-08-28 08:39:32

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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

Hey,

Ok, cool what can i give you


Ash

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#4 2009-08-28 08:44:05

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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

In a terminal write:

xdpyinfo | grep dots

Post output here.

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#5 2009-08-28 09:03:37

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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

Ashren wrote:

In a terminal write:

xdpyinfo | grep dots

Post output here.

Here you go: 107X107 dots inch

Hope this helps

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#6 2009-08-28 09:16:34

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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

Insert:

xrandr --screen 0 --dpi 96x96

in to your .xinitrc

and

Xft.dpi: 96

in your .Xdefaults

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#7 2009-08-28 09:20:20

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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

sorry for my stupidy where do i find this .Xdefaults?

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#9 2009-08-28 09:42:53

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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

Ok, sorted what's the next steps

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#10 2009-08-28 10:43:02

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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

Does the problem still persist after restarting X?

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#11 2009-08-28 10:54:01

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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

Hi drtoki

Yes it does.

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#12 2009-08-28 11:01:58

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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

Does it happen only in openbox? What driver are you using? What does your xorg.conf look like?

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#13 2009-08-28 11:06:48

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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

Yes, that's the only desktop env i have and use. The ATi one the wiki advised on. Good question, where exactly do i find the system one (xorg.conf)?

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#14 2009-08-28 11:12:27

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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

xorg.conf is in /etc/X11 have you created it? There was something like:

aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf

I'm not sure,since I read this in some forum a long back, and I use Nvidia.

EDIT: Do you mean the one created by

X -configure

?

Last edited by sHyLoCk (2009-08-28 11:13:20)


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#15 2009-08-28 11:25:22

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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

Hi sHyLoCk,

Thanks for that, created the file now and inserted the code. now cant start openbox, error says "aticonfig is not a valid keywors in this section" and "no screen found"

I used Hal to auto detect and that is the reason why i don't have a xorg.conf

Last edited by ashleenaidoo (2009-08-28 11:41:11)

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#16 2009-08-28 11:42:40

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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

I think sHyLoCk meant that the code was a command to auto-generate the /etc/X11/xorg.conf (likely run as root.) It likely was done better with X's built in configure (the second code)

Xorg is supposed to auto-detect everything, but it is not perfect yet, and will not activate options like composition (for transparency and such).

I have heard (just an fyi) that there are more than a few problems with the Catalyst drivers from ATI. I think it went open source and is being worked on, so it will likely be better than the nVidia drivers before too long.

Good luck!

Last edited by LeoSolaris (2009-08-28 11:45:10)


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#17 2009-08-28 11:48:03

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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

ok, thanks. how would you suggest i fix this?

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#18 2009-08-28 12:09:20

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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

1. Just use the 1st code i gave you and reboot.
2. Or Use the second one, and notice the path it says a new xorg.conf file is created [i think somehwere in root directory] copy the file from that location to /etc/X11
3. Install dbus and hal and put them in the daemons array in /etc/rc.conf


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#19 2009-08-28 12:15:05

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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

Did you insert

aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf

into your xorg.conf? If so, just delete it, and try starting X again.

If it does not work, delete the xorg.conf. It should at least go back to what it was auto-detecting before. (If you do get it to auto detect and start, the xorg.conf can be found in /var/log/Xorg.0.log Just copy between the start and end lines, and move it over to /etc/X11/xorg.conf. That will give you a working xorg.conf file to change to your liking.)

From there, perhaps generating the xorg.conf with something like

hwd -x

(Terminal/console command, will have to be root/use sudo.)

That command should give you files like /etc/X11/xorg.conf.vesa and /etc/X11/xorg.conf.ati. To test one,

cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.ati /etc/X11/xorg.conf

By the way, I am pulling this out of the Arch wiki article on Xorg.

Last edited by LeoSolaris (2009-08-28 12:19:42)


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#20 2009-08-28 12:21:56

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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

(Xorg is a mess)

Just an fyi, hal will autostart dbus, so you only need to add hal to your daemons array.

I'll let sHyLoCk handle ya from here. His/her advice looks to be a little easier to follow than mine.

Have a great one, and good luck!

Last edited by LeoSolaris (2009-08-28 12:24:41)


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#21 2009-08-28 12:46:35

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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

Hi guys, thanks for the help. Following the steps and got a copy of the xorg file in my pwd. Followed the steps to run the test, the screen flickered a couple of times and is now blank, not good smile

I can't seem to get this, will try a couple more times and if no luck, i guess it's back to ubuntu.

Thanks guys.
Ash

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#22 2009-08-28 12:55:48

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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

Not to be snide, but patience and some reading will get you long way when using Arch.

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI

The wiki articles are almost always really straightforward.

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#23 2009-08-28 13:06:51

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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

Yeah will give it a bash again one last time wink

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#24 2009-08-28 13:16:35

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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

You need to read a lot with arch. We are always here to help but make sure you have done your research first as almost all your problems can be solved by wiki.


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#25 2009-08-28 13:53:59

ashleenaidoo
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Re: Openbox visual look grainy

Thanks

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