This post is about Arch Linux shirts :-)

thegnu · 2005-01-22 14:35:00

Hey guys, I really like the Got pacman? shirt, but I hate the quality of CafePress. I specifically don't like the iron-on look of the shirts. If I wanted an iron-on Arch shirt, I'd make my own.

Does anyone know of another easy way to make shirts that will be better quality that the CafePress ones? Because there's got to be a better way to do it. Even if it would take someone packaging and shipping the shirts (I'm only half volunteering ), it would turn out better stuff.

Just a thought

cactus · 2005-01-22 19:58:53

I don't know how much Cafe Press charges pershirt, etc.
But, often times a local shirt company can have reasonable prices. You can usually pick your shirt material, shirt quality, etc.

thegnu · 2005-01-24 12:48:10

I think CafePress charges something like 13 or 14 a shirt, and lets you charge anything you want OVER that, but if you go over 19 dollars, they start charging a percentage. It's a load of crap. I made a T-shirt once. And it sucked.

EDIT:
I found www.customink.com and I'm emailing them to find out if they do real screen printing (which it looks like they do), and then I'll take it up with whoever is in charge of Schwag.

EDIT AGAIN:
It says custom silk screen printing right at the top of the first page. Which is tough for me, because apparently I read them from bottom up.

thegnu · 2005-01-24 14:28:36

Wow! I got a quick quote for a relatively low volume of shirts (20 Sm, 20 Med, 20 L) and for the basic Arch Linux design (2 color front, 0 back), the shirts come out to $6.07 each, including shipping! The Pacman design on a black shirt (5 colors front, 0 back) would come to $9.76 each!

I'm thinking of starting a website to support small open source projects that don't want to have their own storefront. I just thought of it yesterday, so it's in early planning. But it could turn out to be a great idea, paying for itself and earning the developers much needed capital.

iBertus · 2005-01-24 18:17:06

thegnu wrote:

Wow! I got a quick quote for a relatively low volume of shirts (20 Sm, 20 Med, 20 L) and for the basic Arch Linux design (2 color front, 0 back), the shirts come out to $6.07 each, including shipping! The Pacman design on a black shirt (5 colors front, 0 back) would come to $9.76 each!
I'm thinking of starting a website to support small open source projects that don't want to have their own storefront. I just thought of it yesterday, so it's in early planning. But it could turn out to be a great idea, paying for itself and earning the developers much needed capital.

Sounds like a good idea to me. I'm sure that plenty of OSS projects could use some extra money from a source they don't have to manager themselves. They could just submit a design to your site and then you could manage the rest of the process.

dp · 2005-01-24 18:27:41

thegnu wrote:

Wow! I got a quick quote for a relatively low volume of shirts (20 Sm, 20 Med, 20 L) and for the basic Arch Linux design (2 color front, 0 back), the shirts come out to $6.07 each, including shipping! The Pacman design on a black shirt (5 colors front, 0 back) would come to $9.76 each!
I'm thinking of starting a website to support small open source projects that don't want to have their own storefront. I just thought of it yesterday, so it's in early planning. But it could turn out to be a great idea, paying for itself and earning the developers much needed capital.

what about shipping to switzerland?

Dusty · 2005-01-24 19:14:29

thegnu wrote:

I'm thinking of starting a website to support small open source projects that don't want to have their own storefront. I just thought of it yesterday, so it's in early planning. But it could turn out to be a great idea, paying for itself and earning the developers much needed capital.

I'd love to see something like this for open source developers... the Cafe Press motto seems to be 'take advantage of the customers'. It kind of goes against the grain to be giving them a huge profit and giving AL (for example) a small one.

It would be cool if you could get custom shirts for any open source project without the project manager's knowledge... and then you forward profits to that project. This would allow users to support arbitrary projects in a rather unique way. It would be a lot more work than just allowing project managers to set up a store front though...

Dusty

iBertus · 2005-01-26 04:30:17

Dusty wrote:

It would be cool if you could get custom shirts for any open source project without the project manager's knowledge... and then you forward profits to that project. This would allow users to support arbitrary projects in a rather unique way. It would be a lot more work than just allowing project managers to set up a store front though...
Dusty

This is what came to my mind when I first heard the idea for this project. Maybe some of the people around here would be willing to help you out with the work load if you were to get things off the ground. It would really be a help to the OSS community.

thegnu · 2005-01-28 22:58:21

It's cool to hear that there's interest here! What came up right around the time I had this idea is another project to build a very cheap appliance computer based on Linux for the general public. This is a larger concern for me than the shirts, and it'll be occupying a lot of my time.

I will be thinking about the shirt idea, and I'll keep discussing it with people, but this other project has top priority. And if anyone is interested in either project, email me at thegnu a.t gmail d.o.t com and we can discuss them. Or post here on this board.

phrakture · 2005-01-28 23:01:35

i would be interested... but i'm not a planning person... so let me know what comes of this

iBertus · 2005-01-30 00:59:22

thegnu wrote:

It's cool to hear that there's interest here! What came up right around the time I had this idea is another project to build a very cheap appliance computer based on Linux for the general public. This is a larger concern for me than the shirts, and it'll be occupying a lot of my time.
I will be thinking about the shirt idea, and I'll keep discussing it with people, but this other project has top priority. And if anyone is interested in either project, email me at thegnu a.t gmail d.o.t com and we can discuss them. Or post here on this board.

Wow! Sounds like you have lots on your plate right now. I could probably squeeze some free time out of my current projects and help out with either project in some minor role.

cactus · 2005-01-30 03:02:25

blech...tried to post something..pressed the wrong button, and flubbed it.
:?

It was cool I tell ya...but. I am too lazy to type it again.

Shofs · 2005-02-01 05:58:50

I would buy one

thegnu · 2005-02-02 13:19:28

What I need as far as help on the computer project is a little scripting, a little gui design, and probably a little help with customizing linux.

I'm going to build an LFS system, so I'll be more intimately acquainted with the sheer basics, but I can always use some help. I want to build a system based on Arch & XFCE that will do very well with automounting drives.

I'm thinking of building my own pared back package repository with a bit more of a freeze on package release, in the interest of making it stable and bulletproof. So help building packages, does Yoda need.

I know this isn't a very popular idea, but I'm going to have a pacman front-end, only this time it's an excellent idea. I swear, it's different and cool.

The project will be in full swing before the end of this month. And I'll have mastered the dvorak layout by then, too. Typing takes FOREVER right now.

So:
1. Integrate strong automounting and drive hotplug into arch.
2. Basic scripting.
3. Package building.
4. The mystery pacman GUI that's Actually a Good Idea(TM).
5. Probably something else.

soniX · 2005-02-03 01:32:49

these are two really cool projects...
please keep us updated on both..

cactus · 2005-02-03 02:05:15

why use dvorak when just about every other keyboard does not?

thegnu · 2005-02-03 02:16:45

cactus wrote:

why use dvorak when just about every other keyboard does not?

Because my forearms and wrists have been hurting since November, and I'm determined to have it stop. I've got someone making me magnetic therapy bracelets and I bought a trackball because I use a mouse at work. Supposedly, with the dvorak layout, your fingers move 8 to 20 times less distance. And I can type my name in the home row. nathan nathan nathan nathan. :-)

If you think about it, it makes sense. The dvorak home row is:
aoeuidhtns-
Compare what words you can build with the qwerty home row. Other low-stress keys are:
,.pgcr

So far, so good. It's designed for English, so I don't know how great the benefits would be for foreign languages.

cactus · 2005-02-03 02:25:32

hmm..interesting. I read that typing speed was about the same using either keyboard. So, I suppose it all depends on what you type.

I am so used to qwerty, that if I had to change, I think it would actually be MORE painful. I have developed certain muscle memory and flexability in certain directions related to keying.

but...that doesn't mean that my writsts aren't shit too. :?
I have also found that mouse balls (trackballs) are far more painful for me than regular mice. The constant use of fingers or thumbs to scroll is worse than the ability to more your entire arm, and excluding wrist movement.

What can I say? Standard input devices pretty much blow. But, until brain to computer mind links are available en masse, I guess we are stuck.

I wish you luck!

Dusty · 2005-02-03 04:31:34

I've been typing Dvorak for over a year, and I definately type faster than I did with QWERTY. I'm not certain this is because Dvorak is faster. When I retrained in Dvorak, I was careful to avoid some of the bad habits that I learned touch-typing QWERTY (which I started when I was six or so, so had lots of time to develop bad habits).

Its relatively painless to switch a Windows or Linux computer to Dvorak layout, so it doesn't get in the way. Its just remembering to switch other people's comps back that is trouble.

My hands and wrists have been bothering me much less since then, but the change coincided with a decision to get a chair with arms (for elbow support), so I'm not certain which to attribute that change to either.

Dusty

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