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Hey I saw a post I believe on the last page about notification panel. I am having the same problem. The application is there and working but the icon has disappeared. My cpufreq values keep resetting and on a gnome screen saver lock moving the mouse doesn't wake the box, just using the keyboard will. So far I love 2.28....
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Hi! I'd like to ask where I can find pkgbuilds for this repo? I've tried ABS since it looked like semi-official repo but with no success.
I'd like to recompile some packages with PulseAudio support. BTW, are you planning pulseaudio as GNOME dependency?
It's official GNOME dependency now and I think it ought to be that people that don't want official dependencies for some reason should go that extra mile recompiling stuff not the other way around.Whatever you decide I'd be happy just with PKGBUILDS for this repo. It's working O'kay - except empathy/telepathy and gdm that's not in it for some reason? Maybe some icons missing here and there.
Keep up the good work and thank you!
+1 would love for pulseaudio support to be enabled for 2.28 but if not just some pkgbuilds for the bits we need to recompile.
Thanks
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I vote for PA too. I use it now on gnome 2.26 and it works perfect (Intel HDA).
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+1 for pulseaudio support.
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I won't enable pulseaudio in the initial 2.28 release, maybe later during the GNOME 2.28 release. I don't have any need for pulseaudio, and I don't have time to maintain it at this moment. After GNOME comes Xorg and the regular updates, so I'm far from done.
I think the repository should be mostly finished now. i686 is lacking behind a few versions and packages, but x86_64 should be complete now. I also updated gdm to 2.28, which finally fixes the nasty duplicate popups when inserting memory cards and CDs.
When i686 is on par with x86_64, I'll have a look at what depends on testing and which packages in testing can be moved to core and extra. The remaining parts will receive a rebuild (mainly gtk2 because of libcups). I don't have any plans on sending these packages through testing, as that takes a lot of useless bandwidth from our mirrors.
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Thats fine, I understand you have loads of packages to maintain so if you don't use/want pulseaudio theres no point maintaining it. Could you provide pkgbuilds for the parts that need recompiling to enable pulseaudio though. Thanks
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Seems gnome-2.28 needs libcups 1.4 and once that one is installed from testing, then there is a buch of packages that are to be skipped, so I do not see how x86_64 could be complete now. All gnome upgrades seems to be half done and buggy as hell. I will put gnome and gnome-extra in Ignore Group, for at least some months still.
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@JGC
There are still problems with devicekit-disks and user privileges, I still can't mount ordinary dvd or flash drives... Everything else seem to work fine for now. Anybody else have this problem?
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Per this article the shell was part of the release even though it was not part of the release notes.
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@JGC
There are still problems with devicekit-disks and user privileges, I still can't mount ordinary dvd or flash drives... Everything else seem to work fine for now. Anybody else have this problem?
i have but only with cd/dvd. usb storage are mounted fine but ntfs partitons are not mounted with ntfs-3g
Give what you have. To someone, it may be better than you dare to think.
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Yep, you are right, ntfs usb disks are mounted read-only and dvd's are not mounting at all...
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I'm thinking about installing gnome one of these days. Should I install it before the upgrade to 2.28 and add it to IgnorePkg and IgnoreGroup for some time instead of waiting until 2.28 moves to Extra?
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That depends on how functional is Gnome 2.28 when it reaches extra... For now as I've mentioned no problems except troubles mounting dvd's and metacity eating up cpu when compiz is enabled.
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I upgraded my netbook to [testing] and [gnome-unstable]. I got Samsung-NC10 and it seems that everything works fine. Annoying thing is that I can't write anything on my ntfs partitions and there are many shity icons missing. I fix icons since there was an option to do it but still there is nothing new in this update apart pulseaudio and empathy. Cheese update was quiet nice since it looks much better and Epiphany works so fast!
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i said in this thread multiple times, when gnome 2.28 is moved in testing, i will update empathy and upload it in community-testing.
Give what you have. To someone, it may be better than you dare to think.
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I am not complaining , i am just reporting.
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Seems gnome-2.28 needs libcups 1.4 and once that one is installed from testing, then there is a buch of packages that are to be skipped, so I do not see how x86_64 could be complete now. All gnome upgrades seems to be half done and buggy as hell. I will put gnome and gnome-extra in Ignore Group, for at least some months still.
Could you give some more information? All you've done until now is complaining about things not working or half done, but I haven't seen specific information from you about what specifically is broken and what needs to be done to fix it.
I have this repository running on 3 systems, one i686 and two x86_64. All work fine, though I can imagine there's some non-gnome software that fails because of unresolved dependencies or sobumps in gmime and poppler. With this release a lot of dependencies were restructured or dropped, so applications linking to these libraries could be missing libraries that used to be dependencies.
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+1 for NOone being forced to use any sound system. I have no need for Pulse, dont want it. I was using alsa for quite a while after artsd disappeared. But now can do many more things with OSS4 and to me it makes everything sound better.
Still would like to know about disappearing icons in the notification area on the top panel.
The only problems I have ever had with automounts were policykit issues NOT devicekit. This forum has the quick one line solution for it and walll laaa all fixed!
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Firstly, I am not complaining about your work. I am just so disappointed to see a half made gnome released every time there is a upgrade. The Gnome team seems more concerned about sticking to time schedules than to operability.
Secondly, here is the output when attempting upgrade:
pacman -Syu
:: Synchronizing package databases...
gnome-unstable is up to date
core is up to date
extra is up to date
community is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
:: Replace fast-user-switch-applet with gnome-unstable/gdm? [Y/n] y
resolving dependencies...
warning: cannot resolve "libcups>=1.4.0", a dependency of "gtk2"
warning: cannot resolve "libcups>=1.4.0", a dependency of "gtk2"
warning: cannot resolve "libcups>=1.4.0", a dependency of "gtk2"
warning: cannot resolve "libcups>=1.4.0", a dependency of "gtk2"
warning: cannot resolve "libcups>=1.4.0", a dependency of "gtk2"
warning: cannot resolve "libcups>=1.4.0", a dependency of "gtk2"
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warning: cannot resolve "libcups>=1.4.0", a dependency of "gtk2"
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warning: cannot resolve "libcups>=1.4.0", a dependency of "gtk2"
warning: cannot resolve "libcups>=1.4.0", a dependency of "gtk2"
warning: cannot resolve "libcups>=1.4.0", a dependency of "gtk2"
warning: cannot resolve "libcups>=1.4.0", a dependency of "gtk2"
:: the following package(s) cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable dependencies:
alacarte at-spi brasero bug-buddy cheese dasher deskbar-applet
ekiga eog evince evolution-data-server evolution-exchange
evolution-webcal gdm file-roller gcalctool gconf gconf-editor
gedit gnome-applets gnome-control-center gnome-desktop
gnome-desktop-sharp gnome-games gnome-keyring gnome-mag
gnome-netstatus gnome-nettool gnome-panel gnome-python
gnome-python-desktop gnome-session gnome-settings-daemon
gnome-system-monitor gnome-terminal gnome-themes gnome-utils
gnome2-user-docs gok gtk-engines gtk-sharp-2 gtk-vnc gtk2 gtkhtml
gtkmm gtksourceview2 gucharmap gvfs hamster-applet libbonoboui
libgnome libgnomekbd libgnomeui libgweather libunique libwnck
metacity mousetweaks nautilus orca poppler-glib pygtksourceview2
seahorse seahorse-plugins sound-juicer totem totem-plparser vinagre
vino vte yelp
Do you want to skip the above package(s) for this upgrade? [Y/n]
Do you want to skip the above package(s) for this upgrade? [Y/n] n
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
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error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
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Ok, then I install libcups from testing and here is the output after that:
pacman -Syu
:: Synchronizing package databases...
gnome-unstable is up to date
core is up to date
extra is up to date
community is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
:: Replace fast-user-switch-applet with gnome-unstable/gdm? [Y/n]
warning: libcups: local (1.4.1-1) is newer than extra (1.3.11-1)
resolving dependencies...
warning: cannot resolve "device-mapper>=2.02.52", a dependency of "devicekit-disks"
warning: cannot resolve "device-mapper>=2.02.52", a dependency of "devicekit-disks"
warning: cannot resolve "device-mapper>=2.02.52", a dependency of "devicekit-disks"
warning: cannot resolve "device-mapper>=2.02.52", a dependency of "devicekit-disks"
:: the following package(s) cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable dependencies:
evolution-exchange gvfs nautilus sound-juicer
Do you want to skip the above package(s) for this upgrade? [Y/n] n
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: devicekit-disks: requires device-mapper>=2.02.52
:: devicekit-disks: requires device-mapper>=2.02.52
:: devicekit-disks: requires device-mapper>=2.02.52
:: devicekit-disks: requires device-mapper>=2.02.52
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OrangeRoot, Pulse is the upstream default. You won't be 'forced' to use it if it becomes part of the (gnome) group in Arch. Just like any other package, you can uninstall it and replace it with something else, OSSv4, alsa, your own bit-parser, whatever.
JGC, been using this on x86_64 off and on, haven't had any problems besides the compiz/metacity. Interesting thing is that, on startup, consecutive ps -e | grep metacity would show the process id of metacity increasing rapidly such that killall metacity would not find a running metacity process.
Allan-Volunteer on the (topic being discussed) mailn lists. You never get the people who matters attention on the forums.
jasonwryan-Installing Arch is a measure of your literacy. Maintaining Arch is a measure of your diligence. Contributing to Arch is a measure of your competence.
Griemak-Bleeding edge, not bleeding flat. Edge denotes falls will occur from time to time. Bring your own parachute.
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As said, this repository requires testing packages. If you're not using testing, you can't use this repository. I am sure that device-mapper will move to core shortly, but given the fact that cups is still in testing and people still having problems with it, I'll lower the dependency on libcups when this goes to extra. The device-mapper dependency will stay though, as devicekit-disks needs a hack to build with older versions (our package in core has a bug that causes a build failure).
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Fair enough. Good answer. Even poor old linfan understands that one
Can I put something like this in IgnoreGroup:
IgnoreGroup = gnome-2.28 gnome-extra-2.28
or how should it be done?
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@ngoonee That is one of the big reason I like Arch. They use sane, non meta packaged apps for the most part. Some things just have to fit together, but on the things that don't choice is a wonderful thing.
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The only problems I have ever had with automounts were policykit issues NOT devicekit. This forum has the quick one line solution for it and walll laaa all fixed!
Can you give us a link to the one liner? I've tried to enable sudo on polkit-authorization but to no avail, it won't let me change the settings...
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cat /etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <!-- -*- XML -*- -->
<!DOCTYPE pkconfig PUBLIC "-//freedesktop//DTD PolicyKit Configuration 1.0//EN"
"http://hal.freedesktop.org/releases/Pol … config.dtd">
<config version="0.1">
<return result="yes"/>
</config>
I will do you one better because this is such a PITA for new installs and the fix isn't complicated.
The line <return result="yes"/> is the fix.
I think on this one I had to reboot because there so many layers involved. Hal, Dbus, kernel, udev, policykit.. blah blah then it ran fine.
Hope it helps you.
Last edited by OrangeRoot1000 (2009-09-29 23:59:37)
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