What about more visibility to the base-devel requirement

Nezmer · 2009-10-07 10:18:43

The base-devel group is assumed already installed when building from ABS or AUR . Members of the group should not be included in makedepends , right ?

I don't maintain a lot of AUR packages but I had users commenting more than once reporting missing makedepends . So , I looked around today and didn't see this requirement obviously stated anywhere relevant . In fact , I wouldn't have known this If I wasn't subscribed to the Arch mailing lists where this requirement was mentioned .

Suggestions :
1) Edit relevant wiki pages to mention this requirement (base-devel is only mentioned as a convenient way to install different building tools) .
2) Add base-devel to abs optdeps .
3) Maybe add this info to the AUR homepage (not going to happen , I know) .
4) More consistency in the official PKGBUILDS (e.g 703 PKGBUILDS in my abs tree include pkgconfig in makedepends) .

Allan · 2009-10-07 10:31:12

1) was decided to solve this every time it is bought up. If someone actually does it...
2) will not happen

wonder · 2009-10-07 11:10:22

3) on the front page there is AUR User Guidelines link which contains of the first step pacman -S base-devel. Everyone is supposed to read it when they enter for the first time in aur

Last edited by wonder (2009-10-07 11:11:08)

Nezmer · 2009-10-07 19:09:24

Alright .
I added warnings and information in various wiki pages .

the AUR User Guidelines page is locked .
from the page:
"The package group "base-devel" should be sufficient, as it includes makepkg and the tools needed for compiling from source."

I suggest this to be changed to:
"The package group "base-devel" is required unless you like chasing makedependencies."

The Arch Packaging Standards page is locked too . There is no mention of "base" or "base-devel" at all in it.

shining · 2009-10-07 19:17:45

Nezmer wrote:

Alright .
I added warnings and information in various wiki pages .
the AUR User Guidelines page is locked .
from the page:
"The package group "base-devel" should be sufficient, as it includes makepkg and the tools needed for compiling from source."
I suggest this to be changed to:
"The package group "base-devel" is required unless you like chasing makedependencies."

Actually I would use these two sentences (without removing one or the other).

The package group "base-devel" should be sufficient, as it includes makepkg and the tools needed for compiling from source. It is required unless you like chasing makedependencies.

Misfit138 · 2009-10-07 20:20:11

It actually reads :
"First make sure that the necessary tools are installed. The package group "base-devel" should be sufficient, as it includes makepkg and the tools needed for compiling from source:
# pacman -Sy base-devel"

Seems pretty specific to me. (?)

tomk · 2009-10-07 20:44:45

Nezmer wrote:

The Arch Packaging Standards page is locked too . There is no mention of "base" or "base-devel" at all in it.

Not necessary IMO - that page describes the standards, not the implementation of those standards.

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