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#26 2009-10-04 19:15:29

thetrivialstuff
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Re: So I tried Awesome today and it's ......

I use wmii on my desktop systems (home and work), and will probably use it on my new laptop as well. The version I run is older, from around version 3.1 I think, with some custom hacks of mine. I don't remember exactly what I did to it; I might've added the mod-escape key if it didn't have one (for when I'm remote-ing from one machine running wmii to another and I want to distinguish local modkey commands from the remote side -- remoting to another tiling wm gets really confusing if they're not different colours, btw tongue).

The only reason I don't run it on my old laptop is that it doesn't have a windows key or a menu key -- so not enough modkeys (I use alt for other stuff too often for it to be really viable). I run fluxbox on there.

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#27 2009-10-04 19:52:12

greenfish
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Re: So I tried Awesome today and it's ......

Duologic wrote:
unideal wrote:

I tried Musca, and its awesome. Ive never thought using tiling wm, but once you pop you cant stop (:

After all, why would you want to use a traditional WM? How does it matter if the windows overlap or not, since you cant see them anyway tongue
The bad thing Ive found using tiling WM is that you will more and more go to CLI apps instead of GUI ones. And if you need GUI ones, they must be as lightweight as they get (netsurf, mplayer, feh, zathura and I gotta figure out some LIGHT alternative for openoffice writer that ports into .odt)

A lot of good and fast word processors arround. Try go-oo if you want to stay close to openoffice, otherwise there is Abiword and KWord from respectively Gnome and KDE office. Abiword does it stuff independent though.


greenfish wrote:

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compiz as a standalone wm+grid plugin = perfection smile

Which run dialog or launch panel do you use?

I've tied my F1 button to run dmenu as my application launcher in case I need something faster then CLI.


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#28 2009-10-04 20:10:42

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Re: So I tried Awesome today and it's ......

pharcyde wrote:

I currently use Awesome and I like it but it feels quite bloated for a tiling WM. I'm thinking about switching to Xmonad.

http://julien.danjou.info/blog/index.ph … is-bloated

Last edited by Gigamo (2009-10-05 14:13:09)

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#29 2009-10-05 13:21:08

ataraxia
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Re: So I tried Awesome today and it's ......

I just moved from dwm to awesome. I'm not sure why I didn't like it either of the first two times I tried it - probably I was trying to use it the wrong way. Happy now. I was tired of running software that I had to compile myself - it was my last such piece. After this weekend's bug day, no more AUR or ABS needed for me!

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#30 2009-10-05 17:18:05

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Re: So I tried Awesome today and it's ......

You guys should really try scrotwm :-)

I promise it isn't bloated.

http://www.scrotwm.org

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#31 2009-10-05 19:05:07

Lich
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Re: So I tried Awesome today and it's ......

marco_p wrote:

You guys should really try scrotwm :-)

I promise it isn't bloated.

http://www.scrotwm.org

I will never run scrotwm on anything else but OpenBSD wink


Archlinux | ratpoison + evilwm | urxvtc | tmux

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#32 2009-10-05 20:00:07

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Re: So I tried Awesome today and it's ......

Gigamo wrote:
pharcyde wrote:

I currently use Awesome and I like it but it feels quite bloated for a tiling WM. I'm thinking about switching to Xmonad.

http://julien.danjou.info/blog/index.ph … is-bloated

I don't understand they're comparing Awesome to non-tiling WMs.

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#33 2009-10-05 22:33:39

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Re: So I tried Awesome today and it's ......

pharcyde, this is a short explanation, and if you want it, here is a long one.

In the last version floating is default management layout, and awesome already supports a lot of freedesktop specifications. Maybe it's not in the same category as openbox, but also doesn't go in the same drawer as dwm, musca or subtle. It is probably closest to fvwm, by philosophy of being a "frame-work wm" at least.


You need to install an RTFM interface.

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#34 2009-10-09 00:46:29

Heller_Barde
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Re: So I tried Awesome today and it's ......

anrxc wrote:

In the last version floating is default management layout,

that is odd, isn't it?

and awesome already supports a lot of freedesktop specifications.

is that bloat? I think it's silly not to support those, no? (i am by no means an expert on this subject, so feel free to enlighten me)

cheers
Phil

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#35 2009-10-09 01:20:37

scio
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From: Buffalo, NY
Registered: 2008-08-05
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Re: So I tried Awesome today and it's ......

Heller_Barde wrote:
anrxc wrote:

In the last version floating is default management layout,

that is odd, isn't it?

and awesome already supports a lot of freedesktop specifications.

is that bloat? I think it's silly not to support those, no? (i am by no means an expert on this subject, so feel free to enlighten me)

As the blog post said, awesome is not a tiling wm, it's a wm that can tile.  The floating default was the dev pointing that out.
The desktop specifications are not bloat, who said they were?  I think pharcyde was refering to the general feel of it.  It has support for things like widgets, and a task bar, and timers etc.  I still find it quite lightweight.

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#36 2009-10-09 01:37:00

lolilolicon
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Re: So I tried Awesome today and it's ......

I just installed awesome-git, and think it's quite nice.
It has everything dwm has. You don't need an external bar like dzen or xmonbar, and already get a very nice bar which supports {launcher/menu/prompt/systray/taglist/tasklist/icons/graphs/colors/fonts/hiding}... and by using something like vicious, you have good stats about your cpu/bat/mem/net/music etc etc, and all those widgets can be made clickable for launching other stuff. It's quite awesome I think.
The config/theme files are quite easy to understand really even tho I don't know lua. I've just started and would like to know more about it.

Last edited by lolilolicon (2009-10-09 01:38:48)


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#37 2009-10-11 09:12:23

Silverwing
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Re: So I tried Awesome today and it's ......

I'm using tiling because I often have 3 appplications open that require attention. I often have a word processor and/or webbrowser open, together with pidgin for IRC and MSN (yea.. can't freaking change protocol cuz all my friends are using it..), plus a mpd line in the root name (DWM). I haven't tried programming yet, but I can imaging it's full power there.

With a tiling manager, alt-tab becomes useless. You can see every running app, without a single click or buttonpress!

I use a 19" screen, but tiling is still very effective smile


Careful what you wish, you might just get it!

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#38 2009-10-13 12:49:18

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Re: So I tried Awesome today and it's ......

For what it's worth, it was Gnome > Openbox > Awesome > dvtm > screen-vs > Musca for me. Musca is perfect for my Pentium, and is far more intuitive by default for me.


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#39 2009-10-13 16:55:05

Jimi
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Re: So I tried Awesome today and it's ......

I installed awesome and was thinking it was cool for like 10 minutes then I discovered how its radically changed during updates. I switched to DWM and I'll never go back.

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#40 2009-10-13 19:26:32

scio
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From: Buffalo, NY
Registered: 2008-08-05
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Re: So I tried Awesome today and it's ......

Jimi wrote:

I installed awesome and was thinking it was cool for like 10 minutes then I discovered how its radically changed during updates. I switched to DWM and I'll never go back.

Major revision number changes are generally due to radical changes.
Not to mention all the info needed for the changes is documented: http://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/Main_P … _For_Users

But to each their own, I love awesome and run from git.

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