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#1 2005-01-27 20:01:49

Tigger
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Review of Arch 0.7 on OSnews

Just read a nice review of Arch over on OSnews.

http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=9540&page=1

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#2 2005-01-27 20:20:13

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Re: Review of Arch 0.7 on OSnews

wow..pretty good article. His reasoning on the first page, about his path to arch, is much the same route I took.
8)

Kudos to him for a well written review.
big_smile


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"tacos" -- Cactus' Law
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#3 2005-01-27 20:23:34

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Re: Review of Arch 0.7 on OSnews

damn you, I was *just* coming here to post that

not a bad article... *braces for impact*

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#4 2005-01-27 20:25:25

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Re: Review of Arch 0.7 on OSnews

phrakture wrote:

not a bad article... *braces for impact*

heh..you mean the flood of new people coming to the forums?
wink


"Be conservative in what you send; be liberal in what you accept." -- Postel's Law
"tacos" -- Cactus' Law
"t̥͍͎̪̪͗a̴̻̩͈͚ͨc̠o̩̙͈ͫͅs͙͎̙͊ ͔͇̫̜t͎̳̀a̜̞̗ͩc̗͍͚o̲̯̿s̖̣̤̙͌ ̖̜̈ț̰̫͓ạ̪͖̳c̲͎͕̰̯̃̈o͉ͅs̪ͪ ̜̻̖̜͕" -- -̖͚̫̙̓-̺̠͇ͤ̃ ̜̪̜ͯZ͔̗̭̞ͪA̝͈̙͖̩L͉̠̺͓G̙̞̦͖O̳̗͍

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#5 2005-01-27 20:42:02

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Re: Review of Arch 0.7 on OSnews

You can't keep a good thing secret for too long - lol.

kudos to the arch team - devs,testers,wiki writers - everyone.

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#6 2005-01-27 20:44:35

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Re: Review of Arch 0.7 on OSnews

If you read the comments for that article, the first comment says Arch is most like Windows of all the distros... WTF, they must be on crack!  What does that mean anyway??  KDE is like windows?

/don't understand some people

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#7 2005-01-27 20:46:12

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Re: Review of Arch 0.7 on OSnews

phrakture wrote:

damn you, I was *just* coming here to post that

not a bad article... *braces for impact*

LOL

As my 3 1/2 year old son says "Ya smooze ya lyooze"

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#8 2005-01-27 20:50:40

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Re: Review of Arch 0.7 on OSnews

ylikone wrote:

If you read the comments for that article, the first comment says Arch is most like Windows of all the distros... WTF, they must be on crack!  What does that mean anyway??  KDE is like windows?

/don't understand some people

I just read the articles that are linked or written over there.  The comments mainly seem like they come from 10 year olds that just want to see what they typed show up somewhere.  About 95% of the comments are totally useless.  Lots of pointless flamewars over there with Every-OS bashing going on.

In either case, the articel is well written and to the point.  This is one I would link on the front page of the Arch website.

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#9 2005-01-27 20:55:28

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Re: Review of Arch 0.7 on OSnews

Tigger wrote:

In either case, the articel is well written and to the point.  This is one I would link on the front page of the Arch website.

Also in the distrowatch article section.


"Be conservative in what you send; be liberal in what you accept." -- Postel's Law
"tacos" -- Cactus' Law
"t̥͍͎̪̪͗a̴̻̩͈͚ͨc̠o̩̙͈ͫͅs͙͎̙͊ ͔͇̫̜t͎̳̀a̜̞̗ͩc̗͍͚o̲̯̿s̖̣̤̙͌ ̖̜̈ț̰̫͓ạ̪͖̳c̲͎͕̰̯̃̈o͉ͅs̪ͪ ̜̻̖̜͕" -- -̖͚̫̙̓-̺̠͇ͤ̃ ̜̪̜ͯZ͔̗̭̞ͪA̝͈̙͖̩L͉̠̺͓G̙̞̦͖O̳̗͍

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#10 2005-01-27 21:00:26

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Re: Review of Arch 0.7 on OSnews

Ladislav over at Distrowatch is pretty good about stuff like that.  I used to be the guy from Vector Linux that communicated updates to him.  Some stuff he got up there before I even emailed him - lol.

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#11 2005-01-27 21:07:40

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Re: Review of Arch 0.7 on OSnews

Tigger wrote:

Some stuff he got up there before I even emailed him - lol.

:shock: Sounds like he is really on the ball. I always liked distrowatch. It was an immesurable resource for me during my distro searching days, and still is.  wink


"Be conservative in what you send; be liberal in what you accept." -- Postel's Law
"tacos" -- Cactus' Law
"t̥͍͎̪̪͗a̴̻̩͈͚ͨc̠o̩̙͈ͫͅs͙͎̙͊ ͔͇̫̜t͎̳̀a̜̞̗ͩc̗͍͚o̲̯̿s̖̣̤̙͌ ̖̜̈ț̰̫͓ạ̪͖̳c̲͎͕̰̯̃̈o͉ͅs̪ͪ ̜̻̖̜͕" -- -̖͚̫̙̓-̺̠͇ͤ̃ ̜̪̜ͯZ͔̗̭̞ͪA̝͈̙͖̩L͉̠̺͓G̙̞̦͖O̳̗͍

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#12 2005-01-27 21:24:06

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Re: Review of Arch 0.7 on OSnews

I visit distrowatch every single day to keep up with the new versions that come out.  how do you think I heard about Arch - lol.

It is the most current and most complete site for distro stuff where you can compare and read all kinds of reviews.

Here is how I check out a new distro:

1 - see it on distrowatch
2 - check the reviews from the distrowatch page for that distro
3 - check the user forum if they have one
4 - go to the homepage of the distro and read the "abouts" and docs
5 - if that all seems appealing, then I download, burn it and try it on one of my 14 test partitions.  If I like it enough, it makes it onto my wife's laptop. She likes Slack and VL - I set it up for her of course and I made a tarball of the partition that I keep on my server so I can restore it quickly if needed - lol.

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#13 2005-01-27 21:29:10

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Re: Review of Arch 0.7 on OSnews

That article was almost an exact mirror of my path to Arch. It was a very comprehensive article for someone who is currently using a point-click distro. I was impressed. Most reviews of Arch are much too short and only talk about the actual installation and early configuration, not about what it's like to use on the desktop.

Well done article and I hope it brings more people to Arch.

EDIT: Btw Tigger, I do that too! Usually I never get to the actual install part of it, but I read the about docs first, then go through the forums and see how many problems people have with it and how active the forums are.

Maybe someone needs to write a book called "How to Choose a Linux Distro." lol


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#14 2005-01-27 21:55:08

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Re: Review of Arch 0.7 on OSnews

shadowhand wrote:

That article was almost an exact mirror of my path to Arch. It was a very comprehensive article for someone who is currently using a point-click distro. I was impressed. Most reviews of Arch are much too short and only talk about the actual installation and early configuration, not about what it's like to use on the desktop.

Well done article and I hope it brings more people to Arch.

EDIT: Btw Tigger, I do that too! Usually I never get to the actual install part of it, but I read the about docs first, then go through the forums and see how many problems people have with it and how active the forums are.

Maybe someone needs to write a book called "How to Choose a Linux Distro." lol

I'm like a kid in a candy store - no way can you get me to settle on just 1 - lol.

I am a Linux Addict - there I said it but I'm not going to change!

Picking a distro should be more of a bash script than a book:

-----start of script------
#!/bin/bash
#find a distro script

goodcommunity="arch vector_linux mandrake gentoo"
notasgoodcommunity=$goodcommunity + "slackware fedora"

main () {

if [ "$user" = "new"]; then
goodforum="1"
choice
else
goodforum="0"
choice
fi

}

choice () {

if [ $goodforum = 1 ]; then
what_am_I_looking_for="$goodcommunity"
else
what_am_I_looking_for="$notsogoodcommunity"
fi

for try in $(what_am_I_looking_for); do
firefox http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q="$try"&spell=1
done

}

if [ "$current-os" = "windows" ]; then
user="new"
else
user="notnew"
fi

main

----end of script------

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#15 2005-01-27 22:01:00

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Re: Review of Arch 0.7 on OSnews

Tigger wrote:

I just read the articles that are linked or written over there.  The comments mainly seem like they come from 10 year olds that just want to see what they typed show up somewhere.  About 95% of the comments are totally useless.  Lots of pointless flamewars over there with Every-OS bashing going on.

heh.  This is exactly why I don't go to sites like OSNews. 

According to the comments on any review all distros suck.


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#16 2005-01-27 22:13:30

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Re: Review of Arch 0.7 on OSnews

sarah31 wrote:

heh.  This is exactly why I don't go to sites like OSNews. 

According to the comments on any review all distros suck.

You forgot to inject "all 10 year olds," between "to" and "the"

Reviews are important - the useless comments on those kinds of sites are not.

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#17 2005-01-27 22:17:24

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Re: Review of Arch 0.7 on OSnews

actually a large number of comments on those news site are useless wink


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#18 2005-01-28 00:12:14

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Re: Review of Arch 0.7 on OSnews

I have just finished reading the article, (5 pages, hek, I don't read that much documentaion in a week!)

I have to say I think he may have missed the hidden gem.

Arch is not a business mission critical OS because... it is bang up to date and has all the security flaws fixed by default...

No, it does not make sense to me.

Arch rocks, because it is up to date on what is major (Anything I care about that is not, for example freeciv, after all we all have uor addictions, can be rebuilt by me.) And if you are running an enterprise system you know the hardware, so you know how the kernel is going to treat it.

Maybe I have been working on servers to long (Mostly NetWare) and love the CLI tooo muuch...


Kind regards

Benedict White

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#19 2005-01-28 12:37:02

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Re: Review of Arch 0.7 on OSnews

The review has also been submitted to slashdot and is now under the linux section.

http://linux.slashdot.org/

I hope all this coverage lets the world see how great AL really is smile

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