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#1 2009-10-12 07:42:30

new2arch
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ATI module problem [Solved]

Hi all,

I recently upgraded the kernel26, one was supposed to write "radeon" in modules array in the mkinitcpio.conf which I did, ...now I can't get past the loading of modules after udev-events. It gets stuck there, and if I do a Cntrl + C and try to login as root, so that I can edit the mkinitcpio.conf and disable KMS and regenerate mkinitcpio, system tells me I can't write to the file. It's read only even though I'm root!

Same problems when I boot into single mode - I don't have write permission to any system file.

Update: I tried the Arch live cd and could chroot into my partition and remove "radeon" in the mkinitcpio.conf file, but I cannot regenerate the kernel. All I get is failed errors...


Any ideas?


Thanks.

Last edited by new2arch (2009-10-16 07:23:47)

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#2 2009-10-12 10:51:07

Doehni
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Re: ATI module problem [Solved]

I have the very same problem.
At booting my system hangs afer modules and I can only push the power button.
My graphics card: ATI Radeon Mobility 7500

In the meantime I have installed kernel26-lts, it works perfectly!

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#3 2009-10-12 13:00:06

PeteMo
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Re: ATI module problem [Solved]

new2arch wrote:

Update: I tried the Arch live cd and could chroot into my partition and remove "radeon" in the mkinitcpio.conf file, but I cannot regenerate the kernel. All I get is failed errors...

How did you try regenerating the initramfs?  I had the same problem (has anyone filed a bug report?) and recovered via the chroot/mkinitcpio method.  Remember that you need to generate an initrams for different kernel than the one you're running. 

On another note, kms works fine for me "late".

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#4 2009-10-12 14:18:38

jerik
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Re: ATI module problem [Solved]

Ajaj, same problem here.

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#5 2009-10-12 14:47:41

hokasch
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Re: ATI module problem [Solved]

Did you try adding "radeon.modeset=0" or "nomodeset" to your kernel append line? (in grub, press e to edit, enter to confirm, and b to boot). More here
To chroot into your install from a LiveCD, see this post.

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#6 2009-10-12 15:16:07

Doehni
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Re: ATI module problem [Solved]

I tried radeon.modeset=0 and nomodeset in grub and radeon.modeset=0 in the /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.comf file.
Sometimes after the modules the screen goes to full screen but then it hangs completely without showing anything.

For installing another kernel: I just took the kernel26-lts package from the repos and installed it with this instructions:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernel_Panics
It created another image with *-lts at the end and I added it to grub.

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#7 2009-10-12 15:24:14

hokasch
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Re: ATI module problem [Solved]

Right, the wiki instructions are for installing another kernel, and basically identical with my post. The OP asked for rebuilding the initramfs:
chroot, adjust mkinitcpio.conf/modprobe.conf, then run:

mkinitcpio -v -k <kernel version-ARCH> -g /boot/kernel26.img

.

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#8 2009-10-12 20:52:03

new2arch
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Re: ATI module problem [Solved]

Hi all, thanks for replies.
I cannot access my main Arch computers right now and internet connection
is really flaky...but I will try to piece together what I have done and
what I will try to do with the broken system.

@PeteMo - Chrooting: I think I did something wrong because now
that I think about it the chrooting failed. I got an error message
saying /bin/bash command not found or similar (I followed the kernel panic wiki).
Sorry. I was sitting in the office, failed the update and got pretty stressed
because I had a plane to catch. So, the only thing I managed to do
via the live cd was to mount my boot and / partitions.
And all mountings could be done only to /mnt not /mnt/boot for
instance (if I remember the Arch wiki "kernel panic" instructions
correctly)
At this point I had write permission to mkinitcpio.conf but the regeneration well,
I am pretty lost here.

@hokasch - logging in as a single user, root, by interrupting the boot
process, I become "root@(none)".
Funny thing is I have only read permission on all
system files. Maybe the file system are not properly mounted
as read-write because of the early hickup during boot?

@Doehni and Hokasch - I wish I could install another kernel but
again I am totally stuck because mounting my partitions are only
half-baked as it seems and also chrooting fails...

I have a clonezilla mirror that I can use if nothing can be done
to remedy this problem but I am willing to try to do everything I can before I
do that.

Thanks again for all replies.

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#9 2009-10-12 21:22:25

hokasch
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Re: ATI module problem [Solved]

I personally have a great talent screwing up my install in times I really need it and can not spare half a day just fixing it again - but mostly that goes like "I'm bored with the stuff I really have to finish now, hey, let's try out KMS (or whatever)".

For when you have more time and access to the machine:

I did not mean adding "single" to the kernel line, but parameters that may turn off modesetting^^.
If you try chroot again, it is important to follow all the steps in the "kernel panics" wiki (sys/proc/dev), in the correct order (first mount root, then your boot partition inside it).
To rebuild the initramfs, you have to specify the kernel version (-k) and the output file (-g).

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#10 2009-10-13 07:47:52

Szelek
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Re: ATI module problem [Solved]

wrong topic

Last edited by Szelek (2009-10-13 07:48:51)

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#11 2009-10-13 16:19:59

jerik
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Re: ATI module problem [Solved]

radeon.modeset=0 takes me past udev, but now the pc stops saying checking my partitions had a failure, press ctrl-d to reboot or root password to continue for manual maintanence... how can I fix that?

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#12 2009-10-13 16:42:45

hokasch
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Re: ATI module problem [Solved]

yikes. what filesystem is your partition? try the corresponding .fcsk and look for a more descriptive error message.

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#13 2009-10-13 18:13:13

jerik
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Re: ATI module problem [Solved]

ext4, I'll do that.  But just one thing, what do I type? Plainly fcsk?

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#14 2009-10-13 18:18:03

hokasch
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Re: ATI module problem [Solved]

fsck.ext4 followed by your partition (/dev/sdXX)

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#15 2009-10-13 18:37:02

jerik
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Re: ATI module problem [Solved]

Somehow this time there was no error. I tried late start this time, but no compositing effects. So I disabled the thing. How do I know if I should use intel_agp?

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#16 2009-10-13 18:46:25

hokasch
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Re: ATI module problem [Solved]

no idea what you mean with intel_agp, but here is a nice script to troubleshoot compiz: compiz-check. you can get it from the aur.

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#17 2009-10-13 19:06:09

jerik
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Re: ATI module problem [Solved]

from the wiki:

2) Add "radeon" (without quotes) to MODULES array in /etc/mkinitcpio.conf. Depending on your chipset it may be necessary to add "intel_agp" before the radeon module.

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#18 2009-10-13 20:11:33

Stromblad
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Re: ATI module problem [Solved]

This may sound obvious, but check the "Ati/Amd bar and grill thread..the last 2-3 pages. They were very useful in getting my modules to work after the upgrade, there are some module that need to be blacklisted for these  to work

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#19 2009-10-14 18:23:18

tkdfighter
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Re: ATI module problem [Solved]

Just had the same problem with the boot process getting stuck at "Modules loading ...". Adding intel_agp solved it for me.

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#20 2009-10-14 21:27:00

Army
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Re: ATI module problem [Solved]

Same here, I have to add intel_agp to the modules line as well.

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#21 2009-10-15 18:37:27

new2arch
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Re: ATI module problem [Solved]

hokasch wrote:

I personally have a great talent screwing up my install in times I really need it and can not spare half a day just fixing it again - but mostly that goes like "I'm bored with the stuff I really have to finish now, hey, let's try out KMS (or whatever)".

For when you have more time and access to the machine:

I did not mean adding "single" to the kernel line, but parameters that may turn off modesetting^^.
If you try chroot again, it is important to follow all the steps in the "kernel panics" wiki (sys/proc/dev), in the correct order (first mount root, then your boot partition inside it).
To rebuild the initramfs, you have to specify the kernel version (-k) and the output file (-g).

Hi again, thanks.
I will have access to my laptop tomorrow and will update you guys how it went. ^^

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#22 2009-10-16 07:23:33

new2arch
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Re: ATI module problem [Solved]

Hi all,

Managed to chroot into my system and downgrade the kernel (an upgrade to the most recent kernel followed).
Added nomodeset into the menu.lst and everything's well again.

Thanks!

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