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#1 2003-09-01 20:46:24

rasat
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AL vs. other distros packages

I took a look at Slackware's live CD and was wondering how Slackware managed to include so many programs withing 189Mb image.
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distri … ckwarelive

AL-AMLUG Live CD has more or less same number of packages as Slackware but requires 609Mb. Knoppix Live CD has more programs including Mozilla but fit within 699Mb.
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=knoppix

When installing the official Debian (Knoppix is based on), I have not tried Slackware, then Debian takes much more space than AL packages (about 80%).

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#2 2003-09-01 20:55:53

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Re: AL vs. other distros packages

I think they use some kind of compression other thanl iso on the CD. Don't know how it works though, I know knoppix fits about 2 Gb of programs into that one CD..

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#3 2003-09-01 20:55:57

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Re: AL vs. other distros packages

at least for knoppix i know: they are using a compression on the loop device (while building the iso) ... this is actually a great thing ...


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#4 2003-09-01 20:58:30

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Re: AL vs. other distros packages

both posted the same time

and both with simmilar answers

this is communication :-)


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#5 2003-09-01 21:01:40

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Re: AL vs. other distros packages

http://developer.linuxtag.net/knoppix/sources/

have a look at "cloop" --- this is the compressed loop-device you install a knoppix on bevore fou burn it

this is also great to have on a normal machine ... you can have compressed loopdevices to play around and use as archives ... maybe we could make a package for arch?


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#6 2003-09-01 21:05:34

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Re: AL vs. other distros packages

dp wrote:

at least for knoppix i know: they are using a compression on the loop device

Do you have an idea how its done? It could be nice to include this feature in AL-AMLUG Live CD. Example, I would like to include Mozilla but it requires 70Mb.

#7 2003-09-01 21:11:26

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Re: AL vs. other distros packages

(Guest) Sorry, I lost my user login when editing my post.

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#8 2003-09-01 21:20:22

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Re: AL vs. other distros packages

have a look at

http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/knoppix- … folien.pdf

page 7 and up is the cloop explained ... i played with these things about a year ago, and i can remember, that it was not easy to begin from 0 ... but also not too difficult

EDIT: this is not really uptodate, but the principle stayed the same


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#9 2003-09-02 03:40:55

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Re: AL vs. other distros packages

Thanks dp.

This may help me to make the new version AL-AMLUG LIve CD 0.3 to a "real" Thumb PC what I had in mind for user to customize KDE, download e-mail, save file and documents in Thumb Drive (aka Flash Drive). Instead of using the standard 700Mb CD it may fit it into a 185Mb mini CD using cloop.

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#10 2003-09-02 11:00:22

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Re: AL vs. other distros packages

SWEET, then I can use my flashdrive (256mb) to start and run Arch smile
If I can make the thing bootable


apt-get install arch

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#11 2003-09-02 15:11:12

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Re: AL vs. other distros packages

Arielext wrote:

SWEET, then I can use my flashdrive (256mb) to start and run Arch smile
If I can make the thing bootable

i tried to make my usb-key (512M, Apacer) bootable, but didnt managed in the bios (the only usb-drives it wiill lett to boot, are USB-CD and USB-floppies) ... if you managed to, please tell me how --- would be great


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#12 2003-09-03 02:10:01

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Re: AL vs. other distros packages

To get a bootable FlashDrive Arch Linux would be great. I took a brief look at interernet. There is a feature "DiskOnKey" for bootable FlashDrive. I am not sure if its only for MS. But there are also other bootabale USB FlashDrives (Kingmax USB 2.0). The point is, its there or will become soon as a common feature.
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2003A … 021299.htm

http://www.digitalyam.com.au/category137_1.htm

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