Spammer and article creation

keiichi · 2009-10-26 01:09:58

Spammer - http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/User_talk:Liuxiaoyu Ban this user and delete their articles.

New article - I hope to merge http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Useful_Applications and http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Common_Apps and http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lig … t_Software into one article with categories called Software Catalog. I don't know how to create a new page and/or I need more wiki permissions to do so.

gog · 2009-10-26 01:34:25

In the interest of keeping things simple, they should belong to the other desktop user's resources category. Read wiki help articles; they clearly state that creating new categories should be avoided when possible. Creating a software catalog category for this article alone doesn't make sense... and several categories themselves could be considered software catalogs (namely software and all its subcategories).

And I disagree with merging lightweight with the other two. They are different, and at times opposing ideas.

I do agree that useful and common should be merged.

Last edited by gog (2009-10-26 01:36:55)

keiichi · 2009-10-26 01:41:33

You misunderstood me gog, an article with each of the existing articles as sections in the article is what I meant by category.

gog · 2009-10-26 01:46:53

Oh, well I don't agree with that either

Articles like those are made redundant by categories, since they simply state what you'd otherwise find in a category listing.

Adding the three of them to the same category has the same effect.

keiichi · 2009-10-26 01:59:27

Can we agree on putting Lightweight Software in the same category as Software Catalog (name for merged Useful Apps and Common Software)?

stefanwilkens · 2009-10-26 02:51:13

I feel leightweight should remain a private article, as it's a specific topic. Merging the other 2 topics seems sensible to me

gog · 2009-10-26 02:55:47

keiichi wrote:

Can we agree on putting Lightweight Software in the same category as Software Catalog (name for merged Useful Apps and Common Software)?

I agree with putting Useful Apps, Common Software, or the resulting merged article, if any, and Lightweight Software into the same categories: 'Other desktop user's resources' for content, and 'General' for type.

They are currently under Desktop user's guide. I think this category should be reserved for subcategories only.

e: About naming the merged article "Software Catalog": the name is too general and doesn't imply enough differentiation from Lightweight Software. I think the contrast between the two articles should be reflected in their titles. And naming it Software Catalog is also too inclusive and might raise confusion over the availability of packages, assuming that the sensible thing to do is to not include every available package in the repos.

If anything the merged article should preserve the "Common" prefix, or a synonym, since "Useful" is effectively saying that the rest aren't.

Last edited by gog (2009-10-26 03:08:25)

keiichi · 2009-10-26 03:13:44

Alright, so we merge Useful Apps into Common Applications and put Lightweight Software and Common Applications under 'Other desktop user's resources' for content, and 'General' for type. Who wants to do the grunt work?

gog · 2009-10-26 03:21:46

lol

I'll do part of it later tonight. No promises, though.

keiichi · 2009-10-26 04:20:12

I dunno how to do a merge so I'm thinking I should have useful apps redirect to common applications and wait for mods to delete useful apps.

gog · 2009-10-26 04:32:05

    * Aplicaciones Útiles (Español) (← links)
    * Common Apps (← links)
    * Category:Упутства за кориснике (српски) (← links)
    * Beginners Guide (Srpski) (← links)
    * Beginners Guide (Nederlands) (← links)
    * Beginners' Guide Appendix (← links)
    * Beginners Guide Appendix (Italiano) (← links)
    * Useful Applications (Italiano) (← links)
    * Useful Applications (Česky) (← links)
    * 好用的应用程序 (简体中文) (← links)
    * ArchLinux新手指南附录 (简体中文) (← links)
    * Бастауыш әдістемесі (← links)
    * User:Markg85 (← links)
    * Beginners' Guide (← links)

They all link to useful applications, so it shouldn't be deleted, it'll just redirect to common.

To merge them all we have to do is copy the content over to common, edit it so it makes sense durr , and make useful redirect to common.

keiichi · 2009-10-26 16:55:30

As usual I am doing all of the grunt work. I made some nice edits and moved things into nice places. One thing I did to make the wiki more unified and orderly is the rename 'lightweight software' to 'lightweight applications' and have 'common software' and 'lightweight software' in their respective article info boxes. I just cleaned up and copied the raw article data though, I'm going to do some more quality edits in a little while. Try and edit all the other pages to redirect to the new stuff but if you don't I'll just do it myself. =\

keiichi · 2009-10-26 17:35:36

I also did some big stuff for the Beginners' Guide. I wanna note that I stuck the guide into afterthedeadline (advanced spellchecker) and it gave me a lot of good feedback. When I read through the guide I felt as if I was reading a boring instruction manul, the improvements ATD suggests will most likely be welcome so when I get home I'll go ahead and make the changes. The guide is a huge and widely recognized article so I'll make sure to handle it with care.

keiichi · 2009-10-26 18:19:15

Wiki and site admin guys, you need to updated the frontpage with the new Beginners' Guide link and update the main wiki page with the new Common Applications and Lightweight Applications pages.

gog · 2009-10-26 22:04:03

keiichi, you copy pasted the articles together w/o editing...

dude, don't merge like this. it ends up being worse. before doing that both articles were readable...

keiichi · 2009-10-27 00:14:18

Dude, wait for me to quality edit it. There's a thing called an alpha and I'm tired off my ass right now.

gog · 2009-10-27 00:27:19

k but dont alpha two articles that are linked from the front page... you could've copied them to your user's page and edited them when ready.

keiichi · 2009-10-27 00:59:45

My bad, I'll note that in the future. the article should be great within an hour.

keiichi · 2009-10-28 03:04:15

I didn't know what exactly to do with it so I just cut out the crap and left it there. The stuff from the old common was old (dead links) and too big unmaintainable. I think if the user is smart enough to use Arch Linux they already know what they want to use and/or use Wikipedia's software lists.

gog · 2009-10-28 03:19:46

the red links are more like article request instead of dead links. most of them made sense, ie gimp, open office writer, etc. those are articles we need in the wiki.

i dunno about deleting all that stuff. i agree that it's not needed but someone else might find it useful.. let's see what everybody else says

Last edited by gog (2009-10-28 03:20:54)

pointone · 2009-10-28 05:12:41

If you're going to end up deleting one of the articles, I'd suggest keeping the old Common Apps page rather than the highly-subjective "Useful Apps" list which often offers little more than "Install via 'pacman -S <package>'"...

keiichi · 2009-10-28 23:07:46

Yatta! I know exactly what to do, you just watch.

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