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#1 2009-10-18 09:20:13

mum1989
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[Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

Hi Catalyst's driver (9.9) doesn't work on my PC (ATI 4870 (dvi), + (old) Screen 17" CRT (vga))
I use last kernel, 2.6.31 (on Archlinux i686)

I've uncomment the following line:
# patch -p0 < 2.6.31.patch
then, added ' !ttm !drm !radeon ' to the modules line in rc.conf (to disable them)

then restart
then > black screen

I try radeonhd, but it's really shit because Teeworld runs at 0.5fps (and I can't change my screen resolution).

I try catalyst-beta but doestn't work too.

watch my Xorg0.log here : http://forums.archlinux.fr/topic4722.html
Thanks

Last edited by mum1989 (2009-10-27 11:11:03)

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#2 2009-10-18 17:45:08

ladr0n
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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

I'm having the same issue, I believe.  I did a system update this morning along with updating to version 9.9 of the catalyst drivers.  Now when I attempt to start X, the screen goes black and every few seconds the slim screen will flicker on the monitor for a second.  I've re-made and re-installed the catalyst drivers since the kernel update.  What might be causing this problem?

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#3 2009-10-18 17:57:46

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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

Read the wiki...

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#4 2009-10-18 18:15:18

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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

I think the assumption is that if the troubleshooting steps posted on the wiki addressed and solved the problem, we wouldn't be posting on the forum.  Thank you for your insightful response, though, it's greatly appreciated.

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#5 2009-10-18 18:24:48

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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

Don't be ironic. Most people don't read the wiki which already has many solutions for them.

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#6 2009-10-18 18:32:46

mum1989
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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

flamelab wrote:

Read the wiki...

great, it's help me

flamelab wrote:

Don't be ironic. Most people don't read the wiki which already has many solutions for them.

pfff, I already read french wiki,and  English Wiki
I can't use my new pc (on Archlinux) since 2 week
so next time don't post stupid message please

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#7 2009-10-18 19:15:11

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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

mum1989, I managed to fix the problem on my machine by deleting everything in the /etc/ati/ directory and completely un-installing the catalyst and catalyst-util packages and deleting all the files from their build directories, and then re-building and re-installing the packages.  It's a shame that there is no better solution than this, but if you haven't gotten it working yet give that a try, hopefully it will work for you as well.

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#8 2009-10-18 19:37:12

mum1989
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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

ladr0n wrote:

mum1989, I managed to fix the problem on my machine by deleting everything in the /etc/ati/ directory and completely un-installing the catalyst and catalyst-util packages and deleting all the files from their build directories, and then re-building and re-installing the packages.  It's a shame that there is no better solution than this, but if you haven't gotten it working yet give that a try, hopefully it will work for you as well.

thanks, but doesn't work too sad
(I remove /etc/ati/ directory)

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#9 2009-10-18 21:56:54

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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

mum1989 wrote:

don't post stupid message please

Yeah, rudeness helps people. Move on !

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#10 2009-10-23 19:26:18

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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

catalyst 9.10 doesn't work too

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#11 2009-10-24 12:31:03

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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

It works fine for me with the HD4670. I had no problem installing catalyst 9.9 and then 9.10.

I do follow a kind of strict procedure: take all the needed files from aur catalyst and catalyst-utils (link "files"). I have created two dir in /var/local one for catalyst-utils and the other for catalyst. I download the driver from ATI with the given url. I modified the PKGBUILD to remove the part of the url I don't need (look at the variable source). I make a symb link in catalyst-utlis to point to the downloaded driver in /var/local/catalyst. I first build catalyst-utils with "makepkg". I then build catalyst with "makepkg -d".

Then I log out from any gui (c-alt-F1), in the console, I switch off kdm, remove the old drivers (pacman -R), and install the new ones starting with catalyst-utils (pacman -U). I am very carefull with this so I manually backup my xorg config file, remove it and recreate it with "sudo aticonfig --initial". I make sure I add "!" in front of kdm in /etc/rc.conf so I still get a console if something goes wrong.

Then I reboot (no sure why I need to do it last time (just restarting kdm and manually modprobe fglrx did not work). In the console, I manually start kdm with /etc/rc.d/kdm start. If it works fine, I remove the "!" in front of kdm in rc.conf. Of course fglrx is in the MODULES section of rc.conf.

If it fails, I would just stick with the xf86-video-ati driver. It works fine as long as you don't mind about 3D and a noisy fan.

Last edited by PierreR (2009-10-24 12:32:17)

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#12 2009-10-24 15:24:24

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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

If it fails, I would just stick with the xf86-video-ati driver. It works fine as long as you don't mind about 3D and a noisy fan.

the problem is 
if  catalyst doesn't work : I don't use this PC under Archlinuxmad because I can't play videos games sad (so I use Windows all the time on this pc)

(I use Archlinux with my laptop:) (with nvidia card), Toshiba sattellite X200-21E)

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#13 2009-10-25 07:48:09

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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

With 9.9 and 2.6.30 one day I managed to get it working. Thing is, however, I do not remember what was the magic trick. At some point it simply worked. Now with 9.10 and 2.6.31, though, the trick doesn't work for me any longer, no matter what. I deleted packages, reinstalled them, deleted /etc/ati, checked rc.conf. Still, all I get is this stupid black screen. Worst thing is, imho, there's even no X11 log file. So no X11 log file and even no messages in any other log file. How am I supposed to resolve the issue? smile

Maybe my X11 installation is corrupted? I don't know. Actually I was thinking about installtion Ubuntu 9.10 (cause they're using the new catalyst 9.10 and kernel 2.6.31 as well) just to look at their config setup.

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#14 2009-10-26 19:17:39

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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

I try ati-radeonhd-git but only in 1024x768 and games run at 0.5fps :
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=79509&p=6

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#15 2009-10-26 19:31:51

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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

Everyone, forget radeonhd. Only xf86-video-ati for now on.

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#16 2009-10-26 19:40:18

mum1989
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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

?
but i have a ATI HD 4850 no ?

ok I try xf86-video-ati, but I want 3D acceleration !

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#17 2009-10-26 19:41:15

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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

Read this

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=79509

radeonhd == no 3D acceleration in no ways.

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#18 2009-10-26 19:43:38

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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

ah ok I thought it was the opposite, thanks.

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#19 2009-10-26 20:16:23

mum1989
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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

I try with xf86-video-ati but it's the same

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#20 2009-10-27 11:12:21

mum1989
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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

I try ubuntu 9.04 + catalyst 9.9, it's the same

but now I change my screen and it work !
so now i will buy a new screen (22" lcd)

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#21 2009-10-27 17:18:42

n4ela
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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

The problem can not decide? I have the same thing already 5 months

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#22 2009-10-27 19:53:39

Denacke
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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

If you get the black screen, making you have to reboot, you should have a look at the last messages in your /var/log/messages.log before the messages of your reboot.

In my particular case the fglrx driver was crashing which made the kernel crash as well.

I believe it's important to do a "aticonfig --initial" to generate a proper xorg.conf and also to create some files in /etc/ati.

I also had to do "aticonfig --acpi-services=off" because my card has issues with the ACPI things. This is only for the HD3xxx range as far as i know though.

Edit: Typo

Last edited by Denacke (2009-10-28 19:54:33)

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#23 2009-10-28 18:55:40

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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

thanks! aticonfig --acpi-servies=off helped

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#24 2009-10-28 19:54:11

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Re: [Catalyst] ATI 4870 doesn't work on my pc (in progress)

I just noticed i wrote a typo in that!
It's "aticonfig --acpi-services=off"

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