Drama installing X

jazen · 2009-10-30 07:08:57

Hello, I've got a bit of a issue, I've got a Toshiba 3480 CT laptop and it doesn't have a optical drive, after much coaxing, I got Arch 2008-03.1 installed via Unetbootbin. However, I got issues when trying to install X according to the Beginner's guide.

And the following happens

$ sudo pacman -S xorg
Password:
xorg package not found, searching for group...
: : group xorg (including ignored packages):
     xf86-video-vesa xorg-docs xorg-fonts-100dpi xorg-fonts-75dpi
     xorg-res-utils xorg-server xorg-server-util xorg-twm xorg-utils
     xorg-init xterm
: : Install whole content? [Y/n] Y
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
: : man-db conflicts with man. Remove man? [Y/n] Y
: : util-linux-ng conflicts with e2fsprogs. Remove e2fsprogs? [Y/n] Y
: : udev conflicts with initscript. Remove initscripts? [Y/n] Y
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
: : cryptsetup: requires e2fsprogs
: : heimdal: requires e2fsprogs
: : jfsutils: requires e2fsprogs
: : nfs-utils: requires e2fsprogs
: : ntfsprogs: requires e2fsprogs
: : reiserfsprogs: requires e2fsprogs
: : xfsprogs: requires e2fsprogs

If anyone needs anymore information, let me know. FWIW, the current kernel version is 2.6.24-ARCH

deej · 2009-10-30 07:40:30

Maybe this will help:

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=7916

I see unetbootbin only covers "Arch Linux 2007.08", we're now on
2009.08.

Also:

If you are having trouble with the Linux version, try the Windows version, it usually works better.

Deej

jazen · 2009-10-30 07:48:34

Deej,

Thanks, for the tip, I have it installed already, so that's not the problem (other than maybe being so old that it can't do a straight update path to the newest). It was installed using the windows version.

The latest ISO file didn't work since it seems anything with a liveCD doesn't play well with my laptop (Pentium 3 600, 192 mb of ram).

pseudonomous · 2009-10-30 08:04:34

If you haven't already tried to "pacman -Syu", you should, many packages have changed since 2008-0.3.1 was released, and it's usually best to upgrade your base system before installing new packages. I'm actually pretty sure you've just missed the "Update the System With Pacman" section of the beginners guide.

Otherwise you are probably having trouble resolving dependencies, because your install media was over a year old, the best way to install arch w/o a CD is to grab the most current usb install image off our downloads page. If you have to reinstall, you can read up on installing from a USB stick on the wiki;

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ins … _USB_stick

I strongly suggest ignoring anything except the "new & improved way" on either Linux or Windows. In fact, as long as you've got wget, dd, and a network connection you can do the "new and improved" method on w/ your existing arch linux install just:

wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/archlinux/iso/2009.08/archlinux-2009.08-core-i686.img

then follow the directions in the wiki.

Edit:

Sorry, I missed your post above; it looks like you were just having trouble booting the more current media, and it the "boot legacy IDE" options doesn't help, I'm not sure where to go from there.

If you don't want re-install, then your next goal pretty much has to be to "pacman -Syu", without any errors; you might try un-installing packages that cause conflict with the upgrades, but if all you've got installed is the base system, you'll probably want to make sure you re-install the proper replacement for any package you remove. So, after you successfully upgrade, you'll probably want to run something like:

pacman -S base --needed

Last edited by pseudonomous (2009-10-30 08:32:14)

jazen · 2009-10-30 08:22:39

pseudonomous, I think my kernel is too old to have pacman -Syu be of any benefit. Several things wants to be replaced by core/kernel26, but after it says looking for conflicts, it fails because of dependencies
: : ipw3945: requires kernel26<=2.6.25-0

FWIW, this laptop isn't capable of booting off of USB either. If I could get a shell running, then perhaps I can do the install.

pseudonomous · 2009-10-30 08:42:57

If your laptop can't boot off usb how did you get it to install at all? Doing a bootp/dhcp boot off of nfs? (Just wondering)

I think your best bet might actually to do what I suggest and remove the dependancies. I'm pretty sure ipw3945 is replaced by a kernel driver so you shouldn't need it anyway. As long as you grab all of base after you manage to run pacman -Syu you will effectively have all the same packages as if you'd run through the more recent installer and left the default packages choices. But keep a list of what you remove just in case.

You may have to use the "cascade" "pacman -Rc" and even the skip-dependency checks "pacman -Rd" to get rid of some of your packages, but try and avoid the latter if you can, or at least make sure that un-installing the package won't cause your system to either not boot or not be able to get a wired ethernet connection

Edit:

ipw3945 appears to be an intel wireless driver, you should be able to safely remove that "pacman -Rd", as long as you're able to connect to the internet with a wired ethernet adapter, your wireless card should work again after you update the kernel.

Last edited by pseudonomous (2009-10-30 08:47:09)

jazen · 2009-10-30 08:48:53

Using unetbootbin with the only version of arch it still supported (2008.03-1) along with the iso file. After I got the initial shell to load, I mounted the ISO and installed. I tried this method with the newest version but it didn't want to go since it uses a liveCD (those were the entries created on the unetbootbin menu). And attempting the same method didn't work with the new sqfs files.

I'll go ahead and give your method a shot, and if it all goes bad, I'll try and install the latest version.

***edit***

I uninstalled ipw3945 since it said it was dependent on kernel26 and pacman -Syu works.

Last edited by jazen (2009-10-30 09:06:17)

pseudonomous · 2009-10-30 16:15:26

Good to hear! Good luck with the rest of your installation.

jazen · 2009-10-30 23:09:34

Okay, after following the beginner's guide some more, I have twm? installed but I can't seem to get the laptop's native resolution. There appears to be a black bar running across the top and the bottom of the screen.

Here's my xorg.conf

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "X.org Configured"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
    ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load  "glx"
    Load  "extmod"
    Load  "record"
    Load  "dri2"
    Load  "dbe"
    Load  "dri"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Keyboard0"
    Driver      "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Mouse0"
    Driver      "mouse"
    Option        "Protocol" "auto"
    Option        "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option        "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier   "Monitor0"
    VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
    ModelName    "Monitor Model"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        ### Available Driver options are:-
        ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
        ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
        ### [arg]: arg optional
        #Option     "ShadowFB"               # [<bool>]
        #Option     "DefaultRefresh"         # [<bool>]
        #Option     "ModeSetClearScreen"     # [<bool>]
    Identifier  "Card0"
    Driver      "vesa"
    VendorName  "S3 Inc."
    BoardName   "86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV"
    BusID       "PCI:0:4:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "Screen0"
    Device     "Card0"
    Monitor    "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport 0 0
        Depth     24
        Modes    "1024x768"
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option    "DontZap" "false"

EndSection

cerbie · 2009-10-31 02:33:09

    Driver      "vesa"

It shouldn't hurt to go ahead and change this to "savage".
But...1024x768 is the correct resolution for your display, is it not? That's what Google tells me it should be...

Last edited by cerbie (2009-10-31 02:33:25)

jazen · 2009-10-31 03:06:45

Correct, my native resolution is 1024x768, but when I do try and use savage drivers, I get an error

***edit***

Posted the log

This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation.
It is not supported in any way.
Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/.
Select the "xorg" product for bugs you find in this release.
Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the
latest version in the X.Org Foundation git repository.
See http://wiki.x.org/wiki/GitPage for git access instructions.

X.Org X Server 1.6.3.901 (1.6.4 RC 1)
Release Date: 2009-8-25
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.30-ARCH i686 
Current Operating System: Linux rawr 2.6.31-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Oct 23 11:12:58 CEST 2009 i686
Build Date: 04 September 2009  03:37:03PM
 
    Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
    to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
    (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
    (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Oct 30 20:54:21 2009
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) |   |-->Device "Card0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(**) Option "DontZap" "false"
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/Type1" does not exist.
    Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/Type1" does not exist.
    Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to:
    /usr/share/fonts/misc,
    /usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
    /usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
    /usr/share/fonts/TTF,
    /usr/share/fonts/misc,
    /usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
    /usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
    /usr/share/fonts/TTF,
    built-ins
(**) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
(WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled.
(WW) Disabling Mouse0
(WW) Disabling Keyboard0
(II) Loader magic: 0xec0
(II) Module ABI versions:
    X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
    X.Org Video Driver: 5.0
    X.Org XInput driver : 4.0
    X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(II) Loader running on linux
(--) using VT number 7

(--) PCI:*(0:0:4:0) 5333:8c12:1179:0001 S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV rev 17, Mem @ 0xf0000000/134217728, BIOS @ 0x????????/65536
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) System resource ranges:
    [0] -1    0    0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[b]
    [1] -1    0    0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
    [2] -1    0    0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
    [3] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
    [4] -1    0    0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
    [5] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[b]
(II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "record" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "dri" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "dri2" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(==) AIGLX enabled
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0
    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "record"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so
(II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.13.0
    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: "dri2"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri2.so
(II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.1.0
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DRI2
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0
    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "dri"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: "savage"
(WW) Warning, couldn't open module savage
(II) UnloadModule: "savage"
(EE) Failed to load module "savage" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) No drivers available.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support 
     at http://wiki.x.org
 for help. 
Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.

***update***

Applied some common sense and installed the savage drivers, that did the trick. Thanks again

Last edited by jazen (2009-10-31 04:09:03)

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