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#51 2009-11-18 00:54:12

JohannesSM64
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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

Kernel: Whatever Arch throws at me tongue
WM: Openbox. I've tried tilers, but found them to be a pain for many GUI apps.
Editor: Geany. Vim when not in X.
Terminal: urxvt
FM: Don't really use one, except for mounting, until I find a better solution. Coreutils FTW.
Pictures: Mirage
Video player: MPlayer with VDPAU.
Browser: Firefox. edit: not light, but I like it, and it has some very nice add-ons, like NoScript.
IRC: XChat
Chat: Most of my friends use MSN, so emesene. It does the job.
Archives: Extract script. Made a quick mod to it so it accepts multiple input files. If I want to browse an archive, I use Vim big_smile

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#52 2009-11-18 03:49:24

urist
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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

thisllub wrote:

Tried xmonad and found it a pain. GIMP breaks it.

Not exactly. I just have to be sure to open it up in its own desktop so its floating panels don't get in the way of others.
th_gimp.jpg

Kernel: Arch stock
WM: XMonad, as you could probably guess tongue
Awesome when I have to test my Java programs. The hacks for XMonad don't seem to work
Editor: Emacs opens quicker than vim on my machine, Leafpad only if I want to quickly paste my programming assignments into Eclipse as I still can't seem to import stuff

Terminal: Originally URxvt-tabbed as I love not having 10 windows open on my netbook
Now, I use whatever Alt+Shift+Enter opens
File manager: Bash + coreutils as already mentioned, XFE if I absolutely have to have a GUI
Presentation: OO.o Impress for Powerpoints, xpdf for LaTeX slides
Process management: top, ps, kill
Images: feh

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#53 2009-11-18 17:20:38

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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

I'm not sure if I am the only person in the world aware of this feature, but you can drag the tabs from Gimp's brushes/textures/whatnot third window into the tab bar of the toolbox window.  Tada, now Gimp needs just two windows (the toolbox and the image pane), and this tiles beautifully.

Gimp could do this for at least five years, and I've never felt the need to float any window in the app.  I was amused by all the noise caused by the single-window-gimp screenshots, as that is what my config has always looked like.

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#54 2009-11-18 18:16:09

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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

keenerd wrote:

I'm not sure if I am the only person in the world aware of this feature, but you can drag the tabs from Gimp's brushes/textures/whatnot third window into the tab bar of the toolbox window.  Tada, now Gimp needs just two windows (the toolbox and the image pane), and this tiles beautifully.

Gimp could do this for at least five years, and I've never felt the need to float any window in the app.  I was amused by all the noise caused by the single-window-gimp screenshots, as that is what my config has always looked like.

Holy crap! That's great! I'm an idiot for not realizing this before...why isn't that the default? Just have one neatly organized toolbox, instead of cluttering the display with 3 windows..

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#55 2009-11-18 19:26:12

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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

Kernel: Stock arch kernel
No reason to go elsewhere.

WM: Awesome
Not as light as dwm, but still very nice, and very powerful.

DE: None.
Nothing's as light as just a WM big_smile

Editor: Vim
Much the same as can be said about awesome as a WM.

File Manager: None.
I just use CLI tools.

Terminal: URxvt
No-nonsense, and a great daemon concept.

Browser: No award.
I use Firefox, but it's not light by any means. No other browser gets the job done for me.

Email: Gmail and alpine
GMail is the nicest mail client I know of, period.
I use alpine for my work mail. It's more focused on a good IMAP experience than mutt is, and less confusing. (The group I work in owns Cyrus IMAP, so I think I care about being happy using it big_smile )

Music: mpd with mpc and ncmpcpp
Lots of power, very little system requirements. ncmpcpp's tag editor really shines as well.

Image Viewer: geeqie
Not really my style, but a good product nonetheless

Image Editing: None.
I don't need this.

Pdf Reader: apvlv
All the support of poppler, and a very nice UI.

CD burning: cdrkit and dvd+rw_tools
No need for fancy GUIs here!

Torrents: rtorrent
I understand this app better than transmission, which would be my second choice

Video Player: mplayer (CLI)
Plays everything, no goofy controller widgets to get in my way.

System Monitor: Plain ol' top
Still the best. Simple as.

Archive Manager: CLI tools
No need for GUI frontends.

Office: No award.
Google docs is still quite buggy, and OpenOffice, which I actually use, is quite capable but not light.

Chat: Gmail chat, mcabber
Gmail's chat for my AIM-using friends, mcabber for work use.

CD Ripper: abcde
It doesn't get much lighter than that for Ogg/Vorbis!

Best new LnF App of 2009: I don't think any of my picks are actually new, except maybe apvlv.

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#56 2009-11-18 23:25:45

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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

Kernel: Custom BFS Kernel.
I like running an optimized and configured kernel, makes a difference if done right.

WM: Xmonad.
I am new to tiling WMs but Xmonad can have my babies.

DE: None.
Not required.

Editor: Vim
I don't need to start a flame war explaining how much I love and depend on my reliable Vim.

File Manager: MC
Bugs aside great filemanager.

Terminal: Terminator, urxvt.
The former because I used to use it to obtain the tiling effect I new get from my WM.

Browser: uxbl/midori
Uzbl is great but it can be a real pain if you are dealing with the main stream dribble that passes as web development these days.

Email: fetchmail.
Nuff said.

Music: mpd + ncmcpp
I think enough people have elaborated on ncmcpp's awesome features.

Image Viewer: feh
Simple, gets the job done.

Image Editing: gimp, imagemagick
Both very good at what they do and Gimp is pretty light in comparison to say Photoshop CS4.

Pdf Reader: xpdf.
Nice and simple.

CD burning: cdrecord.
cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom archlinux.iso

Torrents: Enhanced Ctorrent
Better than rTorrent in my personal opinion. Tiny footprint, reliable and seeds like a champ.

Video Player: mplayer.
The linux media player.

System Monitor: htop, netstat.
Accurate and informative.

Archive Manager: bzip2
It works, it's fast, it's light(ish).

Office: Vim + LaTeX.
Nothing makes docs look more sexy.

Chat: finch/pidgin.
If finch wasn't so horribly broken sometimes I wouldn't need pidgin but alas, it still needs work.

Best new LnF App of 2009: Xmonad. No doubt the best tiler out there.

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#57 2009-11-19 00:01:04

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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

Just like to mention a few of my favorites:

Image Viewing:
Feh - I love this guy. Super lightweight, yet very powerful. Check out the man pages

Web Browser:
Iron - Chrome without all the Google nasties (If you are the tinfoil hat type, like me)

WM/DE:
e17 - Not super stable for me yet, but I still love how pretty and functional it is for how few resources it uses.

System Monitor:
Conky & Htop

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#58 2009-11-21 19:50:54

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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

Here we go:

Kernel: Stock arch kernel

WM: None

DE: None.

Editor: Nano

File Manager: Bash

Terminal: Terminal

Browser: Links

Email: ssmpt

Music: mplayer

Image Viewer: Feh

Image Editing: Mirage

Pdf Reader: Evince

CD burning: dd

Torrents: rtorrent

Video Player: mplayer

Archive Manager: tar

Office: nano ;D

Chat: finch, irssi

CD Ripper: cdparanoia

My lightweight beats your lightweight. big_smile

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#59 2009-11-21 20:13:17

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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

/me utters words of doubt (no WM, but you apparently use X? I mean mplayer (unless you use aalib) and evince, feh etc...) tongue

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#60 2009-11-21 21:10:24

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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

One could use X with only a terminal opened running screen.

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#61 2009-11-21 22:17:42

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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

In which case your WM would be TWM.

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#62 2009-11-25 12:02:16

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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

A fully functional gconf-free XFCE desktop:

- kernel: default
- WM: XFWM
- DE: XFCE
- editors: Mousepad (simple), Geany (advanced)
- FM: Thunar + actions for XArchiver (builtin), Catfish search (custom action), Gnome-MPlayer (custom)
- terminal: XFCE4-Terminal
- browser: FireFox/Swiftweasel
- e-mail: Claws
- music: I was using Gnome-MPlayer, but from today I'll use Pragha - simple gtk music manager with last.fm support
- image viewer: Geeqie - GQview follow-up; I'll try today GLiv and Viewnior, too...
- image editor: GIMP
- PDF reader: Evince-GTK (thanks b9anders for the ideas)
- CD/DVD-burning: XFBurn, SimpleBurn
- torrent: Transmission-GTK
- video player: GNOME-MPlayer - simple and fast, no GNOME dependencies, actually
- system monitor: XFCE4-TaskManager
- office: OpenOffice
- IM: Pidgin

I'm content of everything, except FireFox and OpenOffice, which are very heavy, but there's not true alternative for my needs.

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#63 2009-11-25 16:04:33

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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

akephalos wrote:

A fully functional gconf-free XFCE desktop:

- kernel: default
- WM: XFWM
- DE: XFCE
- editors: Mousepad (simple), Geany (advanced)
- FM: Thunar + actions for XArchiver (builtin), Catfish search (custom action), Gnome-MPlayer (custom)
- terminal: XFCE4-Terminal
- browser: FireFox/Swiftweasel
- e-mail: Claws
- music: I was using Gnome-MPlayer, but from today I'll use Pragha - simple gtk music manager with last.fm support
- image viewer: Geeqie - GQview follow-up; I'll try today GLiv and Viewnior, too...
- image editor: GIMP
- PDF reader: Evince-GTK (thanks b9anders for the ideas)
- CD/DVD-burning: XFBurn, SimpleBurn
- torrent: Transmission-GTK
- video player: GNOME-MPlayer - simple and fast, no GNOME dependencies, actually
- system monitor: XFCE4-TaskManager
- office: OpenOffice
- IM: Pidgin

I'm content of everything, except FireFox and OpenOffice, which are very heavy, but there's not true alternative for my needs.

Thanks for telling me about taskmanager
I created a git package for it if you want to test it out
http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=32235

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#64 2009-12-02 06:13:29

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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

Kernel: kernel26

WM: xmonad
Works flawlessly with dual monitors and CapsLock as mod

Editor: vim + latex if I need it
Effecient

Terminal: urxvt
using set -o vi

Browser: firefox
vimperator rules! Ctrl+i to edit text in an external editor (gvim)

Mail: gmail

Music: mpd + ncmpcpp

Image Viewer: feh

Video Player: vlc

System Monitor: htop

Archive Manager: no gui application

PDF: epdfview

Chat: pigdin, irssi
with facebookchat plugin

Calendar: remind + wyrd

Last edited by ScottKidder (2009-12-02 06:16:39)


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#65 2009-12-02 10:14:10

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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

Best "new" find:  ncdu

It is like xdiskusage, but for the terminal.  And really fast.  Would be nice if it had color, but there are animations instead.  It only took me years to find it, because the description is so vague compared to xdiskusage.

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#66 2009-12-23 15:39:27

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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

Kernel: Stock arch kernel

Only kernel I have used, best kernel I have used compared to many others. Pretty thorough and lightweight.

WM: Openbox

Lightweight, easy, fast, quick, need I say more?

DE: NA

Don't need one, Openbox fullfills all

Editor: Geany

It is not only a development environment, it also edits text files!
Lots of features, very quick speeds.


File Manager: Pcmanfm

Tabbed browsing, Nautilius like searching within each "tab", can mount and unmount as well when configured correctly.
Extremely light, used for LXDE(Lightweight X Desktop Environment).

Terminal: Sakura

Might not be the lightest but it sure is full of feature and speed when it comes to startup time.

Browser:elinks/firefox

Nothing can beat elinks in system resource management. However, I use Firefox with only one extension, the BlackX theme that it has. Adding other extensions would only add to the "beast" that firefox is. Also, in the search box, you can add Archwiki as an option.



Email: Gmail/Yahoo

Using the internet for this, ofcourse their servers will be fast no matter what you throw at em.

Music: Goggles Music Manager

Available via a "pacman -S musicmanager" (http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gog … ic_Manager). Extremely fast and no need to mess around with MPD privileges, the mysql lite that it contains processes file lists quickly and startup is almost instant. No need for a splash screen.

Image Viewer: Feh / Gqview

Nothing beats feh, except Gqview when it comes to having features in comparison to speed.

Image Editing: GIMP

It does everything I want to do, even takes screenshots.

Pdf Reader: GV

Only one of the light PDF viewers that loaded the pages the quickest. Might not look pretty, but it's "pretty" fast!


Torrents: Deluge

Somehow p2p is being shaped where I'm so the encryption technology that Deluge provides comes in handy when downloading distros.


Video Player: VLC
My favorite player, does everything I want it to do, no fuss and is pretty fast.

System Monitor: Conky

Customizable, and pretty if you handle your code well. Did I forget to stay that it loads in an instant.

Archive Manager: Extract/Xarchiver

The extract script can be pasted into your .bashrc (look at post-installation tips) and is very handy. Xarchiver is the frontend to those types of terminal commands, very fast as well and easy to use.


Office: Abiword/Gnumeric

A best combination of light independent productivity apps. However, there is no powerpoint equivalent to the two above so openoffice is still a necessity.

Chat: Emesene/Skype

Pidgin would be a far better choice, but I hardly use any of the features that it contains. Emesene allows webcam video as well.

CD Ripper/Burner:Brasero

Feature rich and worth the extra "heavyness".

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#67 2009-12-24 06:36:57

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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

90% of the programmes listed here are neither light or fast! Sure they might do a lot, be easy to use, this makes them good to use but not light and fast.

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#68 2009-12-25 20:04:27

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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

Here another list:
- kernel: default
- WM: XFWM
- DE: XFCE4
- editors: Mousepad (simple), Geany (advanced),
- FM: Thunar + actions for XArchiver (builtin),
- terminal: XFCE4-Terminal
- browser: FireFox  (yea i agree, it's not "light" hence we should not accept this as light&fast nomination)
- e-mail: Claws
- music: Audacious
- image viewer: Gpicview
- image editor GIMP the best but heavy, hence i nominate: mtpaint
- video player: MPlayer - simple and fast.
- openoffice: good but heavy, i nominate: Gnumeric+Abiword
- in the terminal my file manager: mc and editor: ne

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#69 2009-12-25 22:41:52

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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

Kernel: kernel26-zen - It includes the BFS scheduler, which makes some things a bit faster for me.
WM: Openbox and Tint2-svn - Does almost everything I want. I've tried Awesome, but I didn't really like it. Stacking WM's are nicer. ^^ And Tint2 is just awesome.
DE: None - Who needs those? wink
Editor: Medit (dev) - I'm currently running an old development build of 0.9.5 (latest release is 0.9.4). The latest source from Hg does not build on Linux.
File Manager: Thunar - It's fast and it automounts my USB devices.
Terminal: Sakura and Urxvt - Sakura, because it has tabs. I know there's also a tabbed Urxvt, but it isn't as good as Sakura. I couldn't even close tabs, so I had to code that myself...
Browser: Chromium - It's GUI is way more responsive than Firefox.
Email: Gmail - Just because I can access it everywhere.
Music: Pymp - I mostly listen audio streams. So a "playlist with buttons" is enough.
Image Viewer: Feh and Gpicview - Feh is really fast, but I use Gpicview when I want to view all the images in a folder.
Image Editing: Gimp
Pdf Reader: Epdfview
CD burning: Recoder
Torrents: Transmission
Video Player: Mplayer and VLC - I only use VLC when I can't play something with Mplayer.
System Monitor: Conky
Archive Manager: Squeeze, but mostly 7z, zip/unzip and tar.
Office: Openoffice - Not really lightweight, but I must use it for school.
Chat: Pidgin-mini (+Gfire) and Weechat
CD Ripper: Grip - I don't use it that much.

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#70 2009-12-26 00:25:51

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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

Here's my list of LnF apps:

Kernel: Stock kernel26
WM: Openbox + obmenugen (for dinamic menu generation) - I really love Openbox and, plus obmenugen, it's the perfect combination to me (I know, what else can I say?)
Panel: bmpanel2 (recently discovered, and I'm pleased)
Wallpaper Setter: Feh
Editor: gEdit
IDE: YaPe
File Manager: Thunar
Terminal: Sakura - It's really fast, and I have personal motivation in using it (I written by myself a little, really tiny, code contribution)
Email: Gmail
Image Viewer: gPicView
Pdf Reader: Evince (I didn't know about evince-gtk, I'll be switching ASAP)
Video Player: Mplayer (CLI) and GNOME-Mplayer
System Monitor: Conky, htop, lxtasks
Archive Manager: Xarchiver and CLI tools (tar, 7z, gzip, bzip2, ...)
Chat: GMail account with http://jwchat.org (I'm behind a lot of proxies)
Desktop Notes: gNotes
Mixer: gMixer

I left some categories empty because the apps I use in it are anything but light: K3B, Openoffice, Firefox, Thunderbird (as RSS reader, really confortable), Rhythmbox, GIMP, Inkscape, Sound Converter, Sound-Juicer, ...

See you


Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0 GHz | 2x1GB 667MHz | 250+750GB Seageate SATAII | Samsung 19" TFT 1440x900
Openbox + obmenugen + PyTyle | bmpanel2 | oblogout | conky | pyBgSetter (with Esetroot as backend)
Projects: obmenugen, pyBgSetter

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#71 2009-12-26 01:16:42

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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

Kernel: Stripped down <insert latest kernel here> with -ck patchset
WM: DWM w/ feh and dmenu
Terminal: urxvtd + tmux
Editor: You mean there's other editors besides Vim?
Video: mplayer-svn with lots of disabled features
Music: mpd + ncmpcpp
System Monitoring: htop, conky-cli, and inotail -f on everything.log
Email: Gmail (via Chromium, which is fast, but certainly not light)
File Management: core-utils
Archive Management: Bash aliases are enough for me

I'd love to see someone write an ncurses playlist manager for mplayer.

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#72 2009-12-26 02:33:37

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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

falconindy wrote:

I'd love to see someone write an ncurses playlist manager for mplayer.

What about mpd with dmenu?

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#73 2009-12-26 03:32:55

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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

steve___ wrote:

What about mpd with dmenu?

Not sure I follow.

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#74 2009-12-26 14:10:55

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Re: LnF Awards 2009 - The best Light & Fast apps of 2009

ugh, too much turkey.  I meant to include a url in my post above -- http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=677226

I was thinking you might be able to get ideas for using dmenu with mplayer.

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