A really messed-up /opt

woodstock · 2005-02-08 00:33:44

It's vicious... what do you expect. I've come to expect nothing but trolling from anything this person posts. Besides, he doesn't even use Arch he uses CRUX but here he is, floating around on this forum to only post useless comments and to annoy.

On Topic:

Anyway, I find that the use of /opt under Arch is actually quite decent. Large packages are self-contained and easier to manage when placed in /opt, such as Gnome/KDE/Firefox/Thunderbird etc. Besides, things are cleaning up nicely, especailly now after the Firefox/Mozilla/Thunderbird clean up.

There are a few things in /opt that I don't like seeing there, but I just leave it as is because the programs still work fine. I think /opt should contain only the major packages. The DE's, Browsers, Window Managers and anything else that is complicated to keep track of for maintenance purposes. Everything else should and usually is placed in /usr.

vicious · 2005-02-08 06:39:03

miqorz wrote:

You're blaming pacman for user error? That's rich.

No, I'm not blaming it for removing /etc. I blame it for not doing the job it is supposed to do and not giving any error messages. But nobody is perfect, most programs have some bugs. I hope pacman will be fixed someday.

vicious · 2005-02-08 06:46:02

woodstock wrote:

Anyway, I find that the use of /opt under Arch is actually quite decent. Large packages are self-contained and easier to manage when placed in /opt, such as Gnome/KDE/Firefox/Thunderbird etc.

Yes, I agree. The problem is that it's impossible to define "large" and "self-contained". Thus there have to be inconsistences in the placement of packages. Placing everything in /usr shouldn't be that much harder to maintain because you have pacman, it would be simpler and there wouldn't be useless debates about what to place where.

miqorz · 2005-02-08 06:51:51

Or people should just stop bitching about things that they should be bitching about.

Seems alot simpler to me.

vicious · 2005-02-08 17:14:10

Ok, let's sum up at which conclusions we arrived.

1) /usr is good
2) /opt is good
3) Arch is good
4) consistency is good
5) as many packages as possible should be move from /usr to /opt OR from /opt to /usr
6) Arch should be forked - there should be opt-arch and usr-arch
7) there is no need to talk about this anymore because people hardly ever change their opinions
8) I'm not a troll

Dusty · 2005-02-08 18:41:29

vicious wrote:

7) there is no need to talk about this anymore because people hardly ever change their opinions

Okiedoke. locking....

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