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#1 2009-11-28 20:17:40

jerik
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How to use TESTING

If I enable TESTING, will all my packages be running unstable, or Is it possible to draw just some packages from testing while leave the others stable? i.e. I want kile 2.1

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#2 2009-11-28 21:08:33

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Re: How to use TESTING

You can try to just use some packages, but expect breakage eventually. It is not advised to mix testing with the usual packages. [For instance, you install something from testing which pulls in an update of some library (e.g. heimdal which is now in testing), and that breaks all the core/extra packages which depend on that library, and were not updated to their testing version.]

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#3 2009-11-28 21:16:27

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Re: How to use TESTING

is safe to install only that package. do pacman -U link/to/package/from/testing


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#4 2009-11-28 21:27:25

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Re: How to use TESTING

Apart from the (conflicting) opinions above, be aware that the only supported way of using the testing repo is to enable it at the top of the list in pacman.conf and install all testing packages that are required on your box. Cherrypicking may or may not work, as described, but you cannot report bugs - and that is, after all, one of the most important reasons for using testing.

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#5 2009-11-28 21:48:33

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Re: How to use TESTING

'Testing' is like a soft, cuddly puppy.. all warm and ..., well, enough of that !
Only ever had one problem with 'Testing', over a long time of continuous use -
and that was fixed very quickly. Go for it !

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#6 2009-11-28 22:45:05

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Re: How to use TESTING

My laptop runs testing, and besides the occasional (and rare) hiccup, no problems whatsoever.


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#7 2009-11-28 22:56:56

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Re: How to use TESTING

using testing implies that you are subscribed to arch-dev-public mailing because when a major rebuilds happens we announce. We suggest people not update the system until we are done.

p.s and we are done with heimdal big_smile

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#8 2009-11-28 23:17:46

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Re: How to use TESTING

Hmmmm....

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#9 2009-11-29 01:19:09

jerik
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Re: How to use TESTING

Wow, these cleared out some questions I didn't even ask for! Hurray for a good support forum. So testing is quite stable you say? But software like kde4.4 must be quite buggy and nasty? OR?

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#10 2009-11-29 02:29:20

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Re: How to use TESTING

Possibly, but KDE-4.4 is not in [testing].  We do not package software before it is actually released.

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#11 2009-11-29 08:32:53

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Re: How to use TESTING

Just to contradict my a bit negative previous post: I also run [testing], have not run into any major problems that would require anything more than a simple recompile from ABS. If you're up to it, go for it, arch needs people using testing and reporting any bugs.

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#12 2009-11-29 12:01:19

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Re: How to use TESTING

Just don't cherrypick (I think that was the original question). smile

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#13 2009-11-29 12:02:00

eldragon
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Re: How to use TESTING

if its only one package, then i guess it would be better to just use abs and modify the pkgbuild to suit your needs....

..i wouldnt use testing unless i were prepared for the breakage.

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#14 2009-11-29 14:12:27

jerik
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Re: How to use TESTING

Yes, I think I stick with out Testing for now. But I did some innocent cherry picking and installed kile and kaffeine... can't see how they would brake anythig?

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#15 2009-11-29 14:22:10

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Re: How to use TESTING

Dependencies are the key... Package X needs version Y of package Z, which in turn nees version A of package B, and so on.


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