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#1 2009-12-11 08:53:06

Bloged
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ATI card + OS driver + multi monitor

Hello everyone,

I'm stuck configuring the RadeonHD drivers for multi monitor setup. The system starts with both screens cloned; logging in is in clone mode too. After that the second display is being turned of (no signal). Using xrandr --auto will enable the second display to life and clones the sreen again. xrandr --output DVI-I_1/analog --left-of DVI-I_2/analog will create a big desktop only the second display can only be used for a half screen mouse will go further anything else will not.

I've started with a autogenerated, by xorg, xorg.conf file and tweaked to the one below

xorg.conf

Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "X.org Configured"
        Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
EndSection

Section "Files"
        ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
EndSection

Section "Module"
#       Load  "glx"
#       Load  "dbe"
#       Load  "dri2"
#       Load  "extmod"
#       Load  "dri"
#       Load  "record"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "AL1916W"
        VendorName   "Acer"
        ModelName    "AL1916W"
        DisplaySize  1440 900
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "AL2016W"
        VendorName   "Acer"
        ModelName    "AL2016W"
        Option       "RightOf" "AL1926W"
        DisplaySize  1680 1050
EndSection

Section "Device"
        ### Available Driver options are:-
        ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
        ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
        ### [arg]: arg optional
        #Option     "NoAccel"                   # [<bool>]
        #Option     "AccelMethod"               # [<str>]
        #Option     "offscreensize"             # [<str>]
        #Option     "SWcursor"                  # [<bool>]
        #Option     "ignoreconnector"           # [<str>]
        #Option     "forcereduced"              # [<bool>]
        #Option     "forcedpi"                  # <i>
        #Option     "useconfiguredmonitor"      # [<bool>]
        #Option     "HPD"                       # <str>
        #Option     "NoRandr"                   # [<bool>]
        #Option     "RROutputOrder"             # [<str>]
        #Option     "DRI"                       # [<bool>]
        #Option     "TVMode"                    # [<str>]
        #Option     "ScaleType"                 # [<str>]
        #Option     "UseAtomBIOS"               # [<bool>]
        #Option     "AtomBIOS"                  # [<str>]
        #Option     "UnverifiedFeatures"        # [<bool>]
        #Option     "Audio"                     # [<bool>]
        #Option     "AudioStreamSilence"        # [<str>]
        #Option     "HDMI"                      # [<str>]
        #Option     "COHERENT"                  # [<str>]
        #Option     "ForceLowPowerMode"         # [<bool>]
        #Option     "LowPowerModeEngineClock"   # <i>
        Option      "monitor-DVI-I_1/analog" "AL1916W"
        Option      "monitor-DVI-I_2/analog" "AL2016W"
        Identifier  "Card0"
        Driver      "radeonhd"
        VendorName  "ATI Technologies Inc"
        BoardName   "RV710 [Radeon HD 4350]"
        BusID       "PCI:2:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen0"
        Device     "Card0"
#        Monitor    "AL1916W"
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     24
#               Virtual   3840 1920
        EndSubSection
EndSection

My Xorg.0.log shows the line (WW) RADEONHD(0): Option "monitor-DVI_I_2/analog" is not used wich puzzles me!

Information:
X.Org X Server 1.7.1.901 (1.7.2 RC 1)
xrandr program version       1.3.2
Server reports RandR version 1.3
xf86-video-radeonhd 1.3.0-1

If more information, from Xorg.0.log or anywhere else, is needed just ask....

Thanks in advance,

Arjan Gelderblom

Last edited by Bloged (2009-12-14 10:02:05)

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#2 2009-12-11 09:11:24

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Re: ATI card + OS driver + multi monitor

What is the output of xrandr without options?

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#3 2009-12-11 09:19:31

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Re: ATI card + OS driver + multi monitor

Here you go:

Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3120 x 1050, maximum 3840 x 1920
DVI-I_1/digital disconnected
DVI-I_1/analog connected 1440x900+0+0 410mm x 256mm
   1440x900       59.9*+   74.9     60.0  
   1280x1024      75.0     59.9  
   1280x960       59.9  
   1152x864       75.0  
   1024x768       75.1     70.1     60.0  
   832x624        74.6  
   800x600        72.2     75.0     60.3     56.2  
   640x480        75.0     72.8     66.7     60.0  
   720x400        70.1  
TV_7PIN_DIN disconnected
DVI-I_2/digital disconnected
DVI-I_2/analog connected 1680x1050+1440+0 433mm x 271mm
   1680x1050      59.9*+
   1600x1200      59.9  
   1280x1024      75.0  
   1280x960       59.9  
   1360x765       59.8  
   1152x864       75.0     74.9  
   1024x768       75.1     70.1     60.0  
   832x624        74.6  
   800x600        72.2     75.0     60.3     56.2  
   640x480        75.0     72.8     66.7     60.0

Thanks for further help,

Arjan Gelderblom

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#4 2009-12-11 11:07:41

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Re: ATI card + OS driver + multi monitor

So your smaller monitor is on the left and the big one on the right?

Can you make a screenshot and say which part of it you see?

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#5 2009-12-11 12:41:02

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Re: ATI card + OS driver + multi monitor

Andrwe wrote:

So your smaller monitor is on the left and the big one on the right?

Yes that is correct!

Andrwe wrote:

Can you make a screenshot and say which part of it you see?

200912111344073120x1050.th.png
The far right is not useable by the window, this is the futhers th. The mouse can get there, right click menu will popup but the window is blocked by some invisible wall!

Grtz,

Arjan Gelderblom

Last edited by Bloged (2009-12-11 12:47:55)

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#6 2009-12-11 17:45:47

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Re: ATI card + OS driver + multi monitor

Please try setting the bigger one monitor right-of the small one.
xrandr --output DVI-I_2/analog --right-of DVI-I_1/analog

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#7 2009-12-11 18:52:43

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Re: ATI card + OS driver + multi monitor

try using xf86-video-ati instead of radeonhd. i tried to get xrandr working for over a week having exactly the same problem, ultimately switched drivers and had everything set up in ~10 minutes.

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#8 2009-12-11 19:53:44

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Re: ATI card + OS driver + multi monitor

Bloged wrote:

Hello everyone,

...
xorg.conf

...
Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen0"
        Device     "Card0"
#        Monitor    "AL1916W"
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     24
#               Virtual   3840 1920
        EndSubSection
EndSection

...

I think you need to set a valid virtual size in your xorg. I think the one you have commented out is too large.

Mine is:

    Subsection "Display"
                Virtual 3200 1200
        EndSubsection

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#9 2009-12-11 20:27:32

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Re: ATI card + OS driver + multi monitor

Eratosthenes wrote:

I think you need to set a valid virtual size in your xorg. I think the one you have commented out is too large.

Sorry for correcting you but the virtual size can't be too large because it is just virtual and only influence the maximum size of the screen supported by X.
Although it isn't the problem because if it would be there would be an error message in the Xorg.log.

BTW could you please sent teh log, maybe there is something you may have missed.

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#10 2009-12-14 10:00:51

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Re: ATI card + OS driver + multi monitor

Sorry for the delay, but I was away for the weekend!

Andrwe wrote:

Please try setting the bigger one monitor right-of the small one.
xrandr --output DVI-I_2/analog --right-of DVI-I_1/analog

This doens't change much except that now the smaller monitor has the problems!

litemotiv wrote:

try using xf86-video-ati instead of radeonhd. i tried to get xrandr working for over a week having exactly the same problem, ultimately switched drivers and had everything set up in ~10 minutes.

Changed to ati instead of the radeonhd drivers still gives the same error!

Eratosthenes wrote:

I think you need to set a valid virtual size in your xorg. I think the one you have commented out is too large.

Mine is:

    Subsection "Display"
                Virtual 3200 1200
        EndSubsection

Changed see new xorg.conf

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "X.org Configured"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
EndSection

Section "Files"
    ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
EndSection

Section "Module"
#    Load  "glx"
#    Load  "dbe"
#    Load  "dri2"
#    Load  "extmod"
#    Load  "dri"
#    Load  "record"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier   "AL1916W"
    VendorName   "Acer"
    ModelName    "AL1916W"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "AL2016W"
        VendorName   "Acer"
        ModelName    "AL2016W"
    Option       "RightOf" "AL1926W"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        ### Available Driver options are:-
        ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
        ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
        ### [arg]: arg optional
        #Option     "NoAccel"                   # [<bool>]
        #Option     "AccelMethod"               # [<str>]
        #Option     "offscreensize"             # [<str>]
        #Option     "SWcursor"                  # [<bool>]
        #Option     "ignoreconnector"           # [<str>]
        #Option     "forcereduced"              # [<bool>]
        #Option     "forcedpi"                  # <i>
        #Option     "useconfiguredmonitor"      # [<bool>]
        #Option     "HPD"                       # <str>
        #Option     "NoRandr"                   # [<bool>]
        #Option     "RROutputOrder"             # [<str>]
        #Option     "DRI"                       # [<bool>]
        #Option     "TVMode"                    # [<str>]
        #Option     "ScaleType"                 # [<str>]
        #Option     "UseAtomBIOS"               # [<bool>]
        #Option     "AtomBIOS"                  # [<str>]
        #Option     "UnverifiedFeatures"        # [<bool>]
        #Option     "Audio"                     # [<bool>]
        #Option     "AudioStreamSilence"        # [<str>]
        #Option     "HDMI"                      # [<str>]
        #Option     "COHERENT"                  # [<str>]
        #Option     "ForceLowPowerMode"         # [<bool>]
        #Option     "LowPowerModeEngineClock"   # <i>
    Option      "monitor-DVI-1" "AL1916W"
    Option      "monitor-DVI-0" "AL2016W"
        Identifier  "Card0"
        Driver      "ati"
        VendorName  "ATI Technologies Inc"
        BoardName   "RV710 [Radeon HD 4350]"
        BusID       "PCI:2:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen0"
        Device     "Card0"
        Monitor    "AL1916W"
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     24
        Virtual   3120 1050 
        EndSubSection
EndSection
Andrwe wrote:

BTW could you please sent teh log, maybe there is something you may have missed.

Because of the switch to ati from radeon the log is different now... but here it is: http://pastebin.com/m77d0ea0b
This one at least shows that my seccond monitor is connected which failed in radeonhd!

Thanks for all the help,

Arjan Gelderblom

Edit: changed topic title to have it apply better to it's content

Last edited by Bloged (2009-12-14 10:02:47)

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#11 2009-12-14 20:00:11

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Re: ATI card + OS driver + multi monitor

this worked for me with a 1920x1200 and 1920x1080 screen:

Xorg:

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier  "default Layout"
    Screen        "screen0" 
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "device0"
    Driver      "radeon"
    BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
    Option        "AccelMethod" "exa"
    Option        "DRI"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier   "monitor0"
    Option        "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "screen0"
    Device     "device0"
    Monitor    "monitor0"
    DefaultDepth     24

    SubSection "Display"
        Depth     24
        Modes     "1920x1080"
        Virtual      3840 1200
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
    Group        "video"
    Mode         0666
EndSection

xrandr:

xrandr --output LVDS --auto --output HDMI-0 --auto --right-of LVDS

this was until kernel .31 though, i'm now using kernel .32 without xorg, so your mileage may vary.

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#12 2009-12-14 20:02:20

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Re: ATI card + OS driver + multi monitor

Bloged wrote:

....
        Identifier  "Card0"
        Driver      "ati"
        VendorName  "ATI Technologies Inc"
        BoardName   "RV710 [Radeon HD 4350]"
        BusID       "PCI:2:0:0"
EndSection

Wrong ! NO ati in driver, radeon !

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#13 2009-12-14 21:41:40

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Re: ATI card + OS driver + multi monitor

(EE) RADEON(0): Cannot position output DVI-0 relative to unknown output AL1926W

seems suspicious to me.
But ATM I don't see the reason.

And because here it is 22:40 now I'm sleeping now and will look into it tomorow.
And please use like flamelab said the radeonhd driver, they exist for radeonhd cards. Every one who say something else don't know what he is talking about.

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#14 2009-12-15 07:39:45

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Re: ATI card + OS driver + multi monitor

flamelab wrote:

Wrong ! NO ati in driver, radeon !

Back to radeonhd again!

Andrwe wrote:
(EE) RADEON(0): Cannot position output DVI-0 relative to unknown output AL1926W

seems suspicious to me.
But ATM I don't see the reason.

And because here it is 22:40 now I'm sleeping now and will look into it tomorow.
And please use like flamelab said the radeonhd driver, they exist for radeonhd cards. Every one who say something else don't know what he is talking about.

It was suspicious as it should have ben AL1916W tongue! Changed now... one thing left but that should be easy:rolleyes:.... my second display doesn't start with the right resolution 

randr --output DVI-I_2/analog --mode 1680x1050

changed that to the correct settings! But now I have to figure out how to set it in the xorg.conf!

Thanks for your help (so far)!

Grtz,

Arjan Gelderblom

I think computer viruses should count as life. Maybe it says something about human nature, that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. Talk about creating life in our own image.
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#15 2009-12-15 11:38:30

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Re: ATI card + OS driver + multi monitor

Bloged wrote:
flamelab wrote:

Wrong ! NO ati in driver, radeon !

Back to radeonhd again!

No radeonhd, radeon !

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#16 2009-12-15 13:03:42

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Re: ATI card + OS driver + multi monitor

The option value for xf86-video-ati is radeon
The option value for xf86-video-radeonhd is radeonhd

That what he means, and yes, ithose value (or driver name) are weird.

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#17 2009-12-15 15:39:59

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Re: ATI card + OS driver + multi monitor

flamelab wrote:
Bloged wrote:
flamelab wrote:

Wrong ! NO ati in driver, radeon !

Back to radeonhd again!

No radeonhd, radeon !

xheyther wrote:

The option value for xf86-video-ati is radeon
The option value for xf86-video-radeonhd is radeonhd

That what he means, and yes, ithose value (or driver name) are weird.

Well ok... radeon it is now.... lol

Thanks... now the last hurdle... but that is probably some mode settings!

Grtz,

Arjan Gelderblom

I think computer viruses should count as life. Maybe it says something about human nature, that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. Talk about creating life in our own image.
-- Stephen Hawking

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