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#1 2005-02-11 15:09:02

Net@Worm
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Xfce4 mixer problem

Then i click on Sound Mixer button in Settings window, mixer dont start and settings window crash(or close). If i run xfce4-mixer from console, all windows and panels blinking 2 times and mixer appearing. Please help me, what happens?

PS: Sorry for bad english sad

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#2 2005-02-11 16:13:41

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Re: Xfce4 mixer problem

Now xfce4-mixer start perfectly from command line, but from settingswindowitwont start. Please help.

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#3 2005-02-12 02:01:46

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Re: Xfce4 mixer problem

Make sure your audio is set up properly (check the Wiki).


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#4 2005-02-12 06:42:14

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Re: Xfce4 mixer problem

I set up audio by wiki, but nothing change. And now i have second problem -        after few trying to start mixer, my xfce desktop and desktop menu.

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#5 2005-02-12 17:48:14

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Re: Xfce4 mixer problem

Maybe some problem with sessions? Mixer start ok directly from console, but   wont start from settings->sound. I alsotry the 'xfce-settings-show sound' same result and nothing in console sad. All works ok but this dont sad.

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#6 2005-02-12 18:28:49

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Re: Xfce4 mixer problem

Hey Net@Worm, when I have problems in XFCE like that, I ctrl-alt-F1 to VC/1 to read the output of the error.  Hit ctrl-alt-F7 to get back.  It will give you a good clue what's crashing.

It sounds to me like a GTK/GDK problem.  Make sure you are uptodate on GTK2.

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#7 2005-02-13 07:24:02

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Re: Xfce4 mixer problem

In vc1 only one line, repeated many times:

*** attempt to put segment in horiz list twice

Gtk up to date by pacman -Syu.

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#8 2005-02-13 08:22:53

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Re: Xfce4 mixer problem

Net@Worm wrote:

In vc1 only one line, repeated many times:

*** attempt to put segment in horiz list twice

Gtk up to date by pacman -Syu.

Ah shoot.  I get that same "message" over and over again too, but it's not related to your problem.  I think that's just a GTK widget problem with the panel, trying to resize and fit some stuff I guess.  That constant "message" is, however, interfering with seeing what's crashing, since it's scrolling off that VC.  I don't know where else xfce4 pipes it's errors to.

I'll check through the source a bit and see if I can help you out.

You could try this for capturing the VC/1 output: "startxfce4 &> /tmp/xfce4.log"

Start up xfce that way, open up a terminal in xfce and use "tail -f /tmp/xfce4.log" (hit ctrl-c to cancel the "tail" process at any time).  Try to repeat those steps which give you an error with the settings menu, and watch what reads out in your terminal.  If for some reason it crashes, open up that file later and look at the last few lines in the file before it crashed.  You'll probably have to scroll down a bit since it will probably pipe all your xinit stuff in there too.

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#9 2005-02-13 08:58:01

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Re: Xfce4 mixer problem

After command tail -f /tmp/xfce4.log i see only line, that i posted. I repeated those steps, but nothing in console.

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#10 2005-02-13 09:04:55

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Re: Xfce4 mixer problem

Net@Worm wrote:

After command tail -f /tmp/xfce4.log i see only line, that i posted. I repeated those steps, but nothing in console.

You should atleast have some "X" (xinit) stuff at the top of that file right?  Did you view the whole file, and it still only shows those lines repeating?

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#11 2005-02-13 09:13:56

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Re: Xfce4 mixer problem

X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.1
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.8.1 i686 [ELF]
Current Operating System: Linux networm 2.6.10-ARCH #1 SMP Tue Jan 18 08:57:22 PST 2005 i686
Build Date: 18 September 2004
        Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org
        to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present 
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
        (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun Feb 13 11:50:41 2005
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"

Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list!
Agent pid 3952 
which: no dbus-launch in (/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/opt/bin:/opt/mozilla/bin:/opt/xfce4/bin)
*** attempt to put segment in horiz list twice
-------repeated many times to the end

Nothing more.

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#12 2005-02-13 09:34:46

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Re: Xfce4 mixer problem

I just install volume control plugin and from this plugin mixer start ok. It mean problem not in mixer. I try to open mixer options(ctrl+o): theme changed to default, and mixer options didnt open.

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#13 2005-02-13 09:38:31

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Re: Xfce4 mixer problem

Did you install "xfce4" from our Arch repositories or did you use their (xfce4's) installer?

Also, if you used our packages, were you upgrading from scratch, or using a prior version of xfce already, like 4.0?

The best way to get "xfce" working on your system is:

pacman -Sy xfce4
pacman -Sy xfce4-goodies

That's it.  If you installed individual packages from the "xfce4" group at a time, you could run into problems.

Also, make sure you are uptodate on x.org.

* I'm just wondering why in your output you gave from "/tmp/xfce4.log", you don't seem to be running the dbus manager.  I believe thats used by xfce4.

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#14 2005-02-13 09:43:56

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Re: Xfce4 mixer problem

I install arch and then, as you say, i did pacman -S xfce4 xfce4-goodies.

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#15 2005-02-13 10:09:02

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Re: Xfce4 mixer problem

Whew! You got me there.  I don't have a clue, and I'm all out of ideas.  I wish I could help you my XFCE4 brother, but I've even tried all kinds of google searches and couldn't find anything.

As a last resort, backup your "~/.config" and "~/.xfce4" directories to somewhere safe, not "/tmp".

pacman -R xfce4-goodies
pacman -R xfce4

then,

pacman -Sy xfce4
pacman -Sy xfce4-goodies

as root (not a user),

startxfce4

That should get you into a clean xfce4 session.  If everything seems ok, then you can copy those backup files back into place.

Let me know if you figure this thing out.

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#16 2005-02-13 14:58:03

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Re: Xfce4 mixer problem

I just re-install Arch. Nothing change, i dont no what it is. All works fine, but this Sound button dont.

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#17 2005-02-13 15:34:51

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Re: Xfce4 mixer problem

Can it be becouse of bad-downloaded arch-0.7.iso?

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#18 2005-02-13 16:12:30

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Re: Xfce4 mixer problem

Net@Worm wrote:

Can it be becouse of bad-downloaded arch-0.7.iso?

No. I doubt it.  Either way, if you complete a succesful installation (no matter what version, 0.6 or 0.7), whether one package is messed up or not (which is unlikely), as long as you do

pacman -Sy pacman
pacman -Syu

as first steps after base installation, that will guarantee pacman is uptodate and your system is uptodate.  From there, you install additional stuff like "pacman -Sy xfce", and everything should be clean.  I don't know how current 0.7 "iso" files are with what's in our current repos, but I would doubt an "iso" is made just about every nite to reflect all the constant package updates which may occur.  I may be wrong, and if so, that's impressive maintenance by Arch.  Either way, by using "pacman -Syu" you can avoid any of those possibilities.

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#19 2005-02-13 21:12:14

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Re: Xfce4 mixer problem

I try to install from my old arch-0.6-base cd, and after sysupdate by pacman, settings-->sound works ok. I just dont setup udev, but i dont think that it change something.
I checked the md5sum of my arch-0.7.iso and it is right. Can be that md5 chacksum ok, but file bad?

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#20 2005-02-13 21:30:26

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Re: Xfce4 mixer problem

Net@Worm wrote:

[...]I checked the md5sum of my arch-0.7.iso and it is right. Can be that md5 chacksum ok, but file bad?

I wish I knew.  I really don't.  MD5Sums and their reliability are every bit the mystery to me as the nipples on my chest.

Either way, I'm glad you got it working.  I salute your efforts with my bottle of Shiner, "Na zdorovje" my slavic xfce brother...

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#21 2005-02-13 22:02:44

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Re: Xfce4 mixer problem

thanks!

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#22 2005-02-13 23:51:40

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Re: Xfce4 mixer problem

Now i know that it was: i step by step update packets and daemons - and found the problem - 'hotplug' daemon. This daemon load 2 modules for my sound card: intel_8x0 and intel8x0m. I unload last module and all works ok! Thanks again for help, problem was in my hardware.

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#23 2005-02-14 00:29:56

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Re: Xfce4 mixer problem

Ah good call. I had the same issue, so I disabled hot-plug and just told rc.conf to load my sound card module directly.

I completely forgot about that because I thought it was unrelated, I just did it to get rid of some error messages when booting. :oops:


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