newbie network problems

journeymanpt · 2005-02-01 20:22:45

hi,
this is my first install of arch on my laptop, i have used linux for about a year at school.
i can not get my network to start,
i have a pcmcia netowrk card, d-link DFE- 670txd, i have loaded the tulip_cb module,
but still no luck,
any help will be great

jerem · 2005-02-01 20:40:51

If the module loads without reporting any error, then it is the appropriate module.

Run "ifconfig" and see if eth0 appears or a ethX device...
If there is no eth0 run a :

ifconfig eth0 up

journeymanpt · 2005-02-02 20:05:14

when i ran ifconfig ehtO up, i got
ethO: unknown interface: no such device,
i am pretty sure that its the pcmcia slots and not the card, because at some time i had gotten a message to the effect of, can not find slots,
thanks

Snowman · 2005-02-02 21:11:57

It's eth0 with a zero not the letter O

Try again.

jerem · 2005-02-02 21:55:41

If it tells you about an unknown interface then you do not have the correct module or you forgot to pass some parameters to it.

Normally when you load the PCMCIA module it "should" create the eth0 device node.

Try googling around for the name of your PCMCIA card...

journeymanpt · 2005-02-03 03:18:19

i have found that the driver for my nic is either pcnet_cs or tulip_cb, depending on who you ask, i have loaded both of these drivers, and stil no luck, also i have loaded the pcmcia module.
i have another nic i can use, its a belkin, will that make a diference?

jerem · 2005-02-03 11:51:08

If you have loaded all the possible modules for you cardn then you forgot to pass an additional parameter like this :

modprobe YOURMODULE if_name=eth0


modprobe YOURMODULE if_name=eth%d


modprobe YOURMODULE ifname=eth0


modprobe YOURMODULE ifname=eth%d

tomk · 2005-02-04 15:03:03

Check the output of

cardctl ident

and

cardctl info

just to make sure the card is what you think it is. Compare the results against this, particularly the manfid numbers. Assuming they match, have a look in

/etc/pcmcia/config

for a stanza along the lines suggested. If it's not there (unlikely, but anyway..), add it.

P.S. pcnet_cs is definitely the driver for this card - anything ending in _cb is for 32-bit Cardbus cards, which is not what you have.

journeymanpt · 2005-02-07 12:26:58

so i ran
cardctl ident and i got: open socket: no suuchh device
and the same thing when i ran info,
i then added the card to
/etc/pcmcia/config, and tried again, no luck,

tomk · 2005-02-08 13:24:28

Is cardmgr running? Or to put it another way, is pcmcia listed in your rc.conf daemons array?

journeymanpt · 2005-02-08 16:13:58

here is my daemons line

DAEMONS=( syslog-ng !hotplug pcmcia network !netfs crond)

hotplug is disabled because my computer won't boot if its enabled.

tomk · 2005-02-09 20:50:33

TBH, I've no idea what's going on with your machine, but we can try a few more things. First, though, undo any changes you made to /etc/pcmcia/config - your card is already there (assuming you've been doing pacman -Syu regularly).

Now edit rc.conf as follows to stop pcmcia starting on boot:

DAEMONS=( syslog-ng !hotplug !pcmcia network !netfs crond)

Reboot the machine. Open three terminal windows, su in all of them. In one of them, do

tail -f /var/log/messages

and in another, do

tail -f /var/log/kernel

In the third window, do

/etc/rc.d/pcmcia start

Log entries should appear in the first two windows. Post them here, along with the response from the third window.

journeymanpt · 2005-02-11 18:00:14

tail - f  /var/log/messages
tail cannot open "/var/log/messages"
tail no  files remaning

tail -f /var/log/kernel
tailcannot open  "/var/log/kernel"
tail no files  remaning

etc/rc.d/pcmcia start
fatal: error inserting i82365 (/lib/modules/2.6.10-ARCH/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/i82365): no such device
cardmgr[1698]  no sockets found

tomk · 2005-02-12 01:55:34

Right - some progress here.

In reverse order:

fatal: error inserting i82365 (/lib/modules/2.6.10-ARCH/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/i82365): no such device

This means that Arch is trying to load the wrong driver for your PCMCIA subsystem. This is controlled by /etc/conf.d/pcmcia. For a quick fix, try changing that file to read

PCIC=yenta_socket

instead of

PCIC=i82365

If that doesn't work, install hwd, and run it in device mode i.e.

hwd -d

That will tell you which card controller you have, and the driver module that goes with it.

I haven't seen those tail errors before, but they seem to suggest that your logs are empty(!) What do you get if you do

more var/log/messages    or     more /var/log/kernel

This isn't directly related to your pcmcia stuff, but there may be a problem with your logs, and that's never good.

journeymanpt · 2005-02-14 01:04:27

ok, i got the card to light up,
and ifconfig gives me an eth0 result

the logs are still a problem but we can work that out later,

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