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#1 2009-12-16 00:38:55

bolle
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(SOLVED) I have tried everything for my wireless

Ive looked over the beginners guide over 3 times, copied everything out EXACTLY, but i still cant egt internet working on this laptop sad

I really want to use Arch, as my friend in the states showed me it when i was there a couple months ago.

Please help! sad

Last edited by bolle (2009-12-16 01:57:40)

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#2 2009-12-16 00:44:00

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Re: (SOLVED) I have tried everything for my wireless

hmm.. any chance you could describe a specific problem, including commands you have used, error messages you have received, maybe log extracts, etc? "can't get internet working" is way too generic, even for the most experienced Arch users.

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#3 2009-12-16 00:45:12

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Re: (SOLVED) I have tried everything for my wireless

do you have installed ' iw ' ? Do you use WEP, WPA or no key?

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#4 2009-12-16 00:47:38

bolle
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Re: (SOLVED) I have tried everything for my wireless

Ive tried using the beginners guide exactly,
pacman -S ipw2200-fw
adding this firmware to it, because thats usually what my laptop needs with linux..

right now in my config file for networking i have this
HOSTNAME="arch"
#eth0="eth0 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255"
eth0="dhcp"
INTERFACES=(eth0)
gateway="default gw 192.168.0.1"
ROUTES=(!gateway)

@ P3808 i dont know what "iw" is, and its WEP.

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#5 2009-12-16 01:10:21

katzen
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Re: (SOLVED) I have tried everything for my wireless

well... you have to use some software to use the wireless
after you've installed the driver for your card (check for a wireless interface with iwconfig) use network-manager ( http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Networkmanager ) or wicd ( http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wicd).
If you want to configure everything by hand you can use wpa-supplicant

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#6 2009-12-16 01:20:13

bolle
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Re: (SOLVED) I have tried everything for my wireless

By the way, i have no desktop environment or window manager on this yet, should i install these first to make it easier?
Or can i install those in command line?

and everytime i try and install something with pacman
it says like
if you know another package manager isnt running, delete this file ...

blahblahblbha.conf

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#7 2009-12-16 01:24:26

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Re: (SOLVED) I have tried everything for my wireless

As katzen said, post the output of iwconfig - that will allow people to assist you.

And, no, you don't need to install a DE/WM to get this working.


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#8 2009-12-16 01:29:11

bolle
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Re: (SOLVED) I have tried everything for my wireless

it says

lo - no wireless extensions

eth0 - no wireless extensions

eth1 - unassociated ESSID : off/any
mode: managed channel=0 access point: not associated
bit rate: 0 kb/s tx-power = 20 dBM sensitivity=8/0
retry limit=7 RTS thr:off fragment thr:off
encryption key:off
power management: off
link quality: 0 signal level:0 noise level:0
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 invalid misc:0 missed beacon:0


phewf..

my head hurts from turning from laptop to desktop

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#9 2009-12-16 01:33:50

katzen
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Re: (SOLVED) I have tried everything for my wireless

Ok, it seems that you have a wireless device recognized. Try "iwconfig scan" to see if it actually works.
Then you can connect following one of the software I linked (wicd or networkmanager) if you have a gui. If you don't: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wir … management

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#10 2009-12-16 01:35:43

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Re: (SOLVED) I have tried everything for my wireless

i'm a beginner too, so there is a good chance that i did something unnessesary or what ever...
but this worked for me:
i installed iw (http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/i686/iw/) to use iwconfig...

then i chanced rc.conf:
eth0="dhcp"
wlan0="dhcp"
INTERFACES=(eth0 wlan0)

and as root:
#: ifconfig wlan0 up
#: iwconfig wlan0 essid "<YOUR-WLAN-NAME>" key <WEP-key>
#: dhcpcd wlan0

but now i'm using wicd...

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#11 2009-12-16 01:37:20

bolle
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Re: (SOLVED) I have tried everything for my wireless

iwconfig scan
scan                 no such device

.. sad

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#12 2009-12-16 01:37:38

katzen
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Re: (SOLVED) I have tried everything for my wireless

P3808 wrote:

i'm a beginner too, so there is a good chance that there is much better way or what ever...
i installed iw (http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/i686/iw/) to use iwconfig...

then i chanced rc.conf:
eth0="dhcp"
wlan0="dhcp"
INTERFACES=(eth0 wlan0)

and as root:
#: ifconfig wlan0 up
#: iwconfig wlan0 essid "<YOUR-WLAN-NAME>" key <WEP-key>
#: dhcpcd wlan0

but now i'm using wicd...

yeah, that would work with a wep network.
obviously replace wlan0 with eth1

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#13 2009-12-16 01:38:48

katzen
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Re: (SOLVED) I have tried everything for my wireless

bolle wrote:

iwconfig scan
scan                 no such device

.. sad

wait, I typed iwconfig when I meant iwlist tongue
try iwlist eth1 scan

Last edited by katzen (2009-12-16 01:40:11)

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#14 2009-12-16 01:39:55

bolle
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Re: (SOLVED) I have tried everything for my wireless

WAIT
I FOLLOWED THAT LINK
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wir … management
AND I GOT IT WORKING

but it says i need to enter the commands everytime i boot sad

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#15 2009-12-16 01:40:47

katzen
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Re: (SOLVED) I have tried everything for my wireless

bolle wrote:

WAIT
I FOLLOWED THAT LINK
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wir … management
AND I GOT IT WORKING

but it says i need to enter the commands everytime i boot sad

just get xorg working and use networkmanager or wicd
unless you want to work without a de, but I don't think that's the case tongue

Last edited by katzen (2009-12-16 01:42:04)

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#16 2009-12-16 01:43:58

bolle
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Re: (SOLVED) I have tried everything for my wireless

yeah, just trying to hurry through everything now tongue

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#17 2009-12-16 01:46:46

bolle
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Re: (SOLVED) I have tried everything for my wireless

crapp

do i need to install pythona dn backup the mirror lissts?

and when  try and install something with pacman i get

Error: failed to init transaction (unable to lock database)
if your sure a package manager is not already running, you can remove /var/lib/pacman/db.lck

WHAT DO I DO?

EDIT:

Okay, fixed that i just removed that file..
Do i need to backup those mirrors tho?

Last edited by bolle (2009-12-16 01:53:59)

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#18 2009-12-16 01:54:00

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Re: (SOLVED) I have tried everything for my wireless

Remove /var/lib/pacman/db.lck and retry the install.

Also, as you have wireless working, it would be good to mark this thread as solved and start another if you have separate issues.


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#19 2009-12-16 01:57:17

bolle
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Re: (SOLVED) I have tried everything for my wireless

AAlright thanks so much!

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