VirtualBox vs VMware.. which one do you use?

kdar · 2009-12-17 03:02:08

Which one do you all use here?

Which one do you think is better?

Before, when I was using Ubuntu, I always used VirtualBox, I guess I liked it.... But now thinking which one to pick.

I heard in VMware you can run some games (which I can probably run in Wine, but still).

jwcxz · 2009-12-17 03:31:06

VirtualBox (PUEL) works fine for my purposes. My school offers VMWare for free, but I don't like how service-happy it is. At any rate, I get practically native speeds with my VMs.

I have a Windows 7 (also provided for free by my school) installation which allows me to run Windows-only apps. This is mainly limited to a few Microsoft Office apps and AutoDesk Inventor.

I have a 64-bit version of Inventor, which means that I can't use native 3D rendering. However, even with software rendering, even complex models seem to work fine. Eventually, they'll roll out 64-bit 3D support, I hope.

sand_man · 2009-12-17 03:55:24

I haven't used VMware for years. I use Virtualbox both at home with a Windows guest and at work with a Linux guest.
Home version is OSE. I use the PUEL at work because I'm too lazy to compile on a Windows computer. (too hard didn't try)

Tyriel · 2009-12-17 04:03:20

I use VirtualBox and would highly recommend it to anyone.

Mr.Elendig · 2009-12-17 04:25:19

You are forgetting xen, qemu and a few others.

I've had much less trouble with qemu + kvm than with either vbox or vmware.

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kingdomofdust · 2009-12-17 04:37:31

I am in the process of setting up VirtualBox to run Arch inside of Puppy Linux. I am curious...

Does anyone have experience running Arch inside of VirtualBox? What has your experience been with it? Any problems I should anticipate?

sand_man · 2009-12-17 05:09:33

Mr.Elendig wrote:

You are forgetting xen, qemu and a few others.
I've had much less trouble with qemu + kvm than with either vbox or vmware.

I like kvm+qemu but there are no guest additions are there?

Firepower · 2009-12-17 05:38:34

Other than booting a full Arch install on my laptop, I also virtualize it on Vbox on my family's desktop. It's quite easy to set up, even though from what I have seen, it does not have as many bells and whistles as VMware.

To each his own, I suppose.

anonymous_user · 2009-12-17 05:41:30

I use VirtualBox though I've yet to try VMware on Linux.

mikesd · 2009-12-17 07:21:51

VirtualBox. Hard to beat for me. I like the freedom it gives you. You can use the GUI or the VBoxManage utility and VBoxHeadless is handy with the inbuilt RDP server. Their documentation is great too.

In the past I have used:

* VMWare on windows. Worked ok.
* kvm. kvm is pretty cool. I still use it every now and then if I just want to to boot up a livecd or something.

Ashren · 2009-12-17 07:27:13

I really like the the Virtual Machine Manager frontend to qemu + kvm + libvirtd. No guest additions, but I don't really run VM's for the graphics anyway, except perhaps for IcarosDesktop which runs very fast in qemu + kvm btw.

moljac024 · 2009-12-17 07:31:14

Mr.Elendig wrote:

You are forgetting xen, qemu and a few others.
I've had much less trouble with qemu + kvm than with either vbox or vmware.

Sure, if you have the hardware for it. The processor in my laptop (which is my main machine) doesn't have the hardware virtualization support and without it qemu works like crap. Virtualbox flies though. So that's superior software in my book...

nblock · 2009-12-17 08:34:16

hi,
i mainly use virtual box (puel). It works pretty good and it has a much better linux integration than vmware.
However, i need vmware for projects at my university and it also works (once you managed to install it).

vmware has a lower cpu consumption which results in a more quieter laptop. I hadn't noticed any performance differences. vmware just seems to do the stuff more efficient.

R00KIE · 2009-12-17 09:52:25

Virtualbox here too, I didn't like vmware in the days I used windows (it was too intrusive) and never tried it on linux. I'm getting curious about qemu + kvm though but didn't have the time yet to give it a try.

lswest · 2009-12-17 10:53:59

I use VirtualBox. Never really liked the way VMware functioned, and Qemu is nice for running linux in a VM off a usb stick (in my opinion), but I can't see myself using it in place of VirtualBox.

zowki · 2009-12-17 12:39:30

kingdomofdust wrote:

I am in the process of setting up VirtualBox to run Arch inside of Puppy Linux. I am curious...
Does anyone have experience running Arch inside of VirtualBox? What has your experience been with it? Any problems I should anticipate?

It will lag. I find that Arch in a VM doesnt run at native speed unlike other distros. But the last time I tried was a few years ago so I might be wrong now.

mthode · 2009-12-17 16:41:24

I've run arch in a VM just fine. Both all the major VM providers VMWare XEN and VirtualBox. I am currently using kvm and am very happy with it.

fini_fly · 2009-12-17 16:58:14

I've always used VirtualBox mainly due to its simplicity and I've never had a problem with it. And at various times I've used the open source community, and closed source versions, and no problems here. I tried VMWare once, and didn't really like it.

Vamp898 · 2009-12-17 20:34:24

VirtualBox is _much_ faster and supports 2D/3D much better (Compiz Fusion and some games works fine)

But the fastest Virtual Machine Solution i know is QEMU/KVM.

If your processor supports VT-x/AMD-v you´re on the win. KVM is maybe not user friendly but it have about 98% of native speed

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moljac024 · 2009-12-17 21:03:00

Sadly, the Intel Core Duo in my laptop doesn't support VT-x

Also, on a side note: has the virtualbox_bin package been removed from archlinuxfr?

R00KIE · 2009-12-17 21:18:40

I forgot to say but Virtualbox will not work so well if you plan to run a real time kernel and you have a cpu that doesn't have virtualization extensions.

Arch does (or did) run slower than other distros in virtualbox, but hey, Arch is special and virtualbox had a bug that caused newer kernels to run slower, I'm not sure if it has been fixed or not.

Edit:
Typos.

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SoleSoul · 2009-12-17 22:40:57

I just found this:
http://infoworld.com/d/virtualization/i … -heats-500

virtualbox vs vmware vs others

anonymous_user · 2009-12-18 02:17:54

moljac024 wrote:

Also, on a side note: has the virtualbox_bin package been removed from archlinuxfr?

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=86464

Ranguvar · 2009-12-18 03:58:44

I use VMware Workstation 7.

While I love Free Software, the Free version of VirtualBox lacks USB support, which is a big loss for me.
So, it's between two pieces of proprietary software, despite one being $0.

Workstation unofficially supports OS X guests (questionable legally, use Google), seems to have better guest desktop speed, and has better SMP and video acceleration for me.
Also, VirtualBox has been more buggy in my experience, especially with tiling WMs.

The one thing VirtualBox can do that VMware can't, though, is perform low-level operations on crApple devices: http://ranguvar.wordpress.com/2009/11/2 … irtualbox/
So, I keep it around to help out my friends who buy into those sorts of things.

QEMU is nice and KISS, good for testing alternative OSes like Plan 9 and other *nixes, just suffers from horrendous disk speed.

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sand_man · 2009-12-18 05:25:56

zowki wrote:

kingdomofdust wrote:
I am in the process of setting up VirtualBox to run Arch inside of Puppy Linux. I am curious...
Does anyone have experience running Arch inside of VirtualBox? What has your experience been with it? Any problems I should anticipate?
It will lag. I find that Arch in a VM doesnt run at native speed unlike other distros. But the last time I tried was a few years ago so I might be wrong now.

There was a problem with a kernel (I think) a while back which forced me to use another distro in a VM for work. But its all smooth sailing now

Arch Linux

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