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#1 2009-12-18 02:22:56

jasonwryan
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[SOLVED] Pacman and ABS sync give different results

I have been having a few issues with the NZ mirror, however they have been sorted. I have -Syy'ed a couple of times and get back:

:: Starting full system upgrade...
 local database is up to date

Which I know isn't the case as I visited the mirror via a browser and I can see Thunderbird 3 sitting there (taunting me)...

So I did a

# abs

and now in /var/abs/extra/ I have thunderbird 3 sitting there. How is that possible?

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#2 2009-12-18 02:29:43

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman and ABS sync give different results

What is the last sync time on the db file?

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#3 2009-12-18 02:49:04

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman and ABS sync give different results

How would I find that?

/edit

/var/log/pacman.log reports

[2009-12-18 16:01] synchronizing package lists

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#4 2009-12-18 16:39:00

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman and ABS sync give different results

jasonwryan wrote:

How would I find that?

/edit

/var/log/pacman.log reports

[2009-12-18 16:01] synchronizing package lists

You open up the address in a browser and see all the files on the mirror and the dates they changed, there should be a file called extra.db.tar.gz which is the file listing what's on the mirror. You can also check mirror status on this page https://users.archlinux.de/~gerbra/mirrorcheck.html

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#5 2009-12-18 18:37:16

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman and ABS sync give different results

Thanks mcmillan: I couldn't find an extra.db.tar.gz file in the root or in either core, extra or community directories on the server, but the last modified date on each of the repos was either 17 or 18 December...

And, unfortunately, the NZ mirror is unofficial, so doesn't appear on the mirrorcheck page...


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#6 2009-12-18 19:34:21

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman and ABS sync give different results

What is the output of:

pacman -Si thunderbird

English is not my native language .

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#7 2009-12-18 20:05:10

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman and ABS sync give different results

It was: thunderbird-2.x.x (not at work at the moment so can't be sure of the exact version, but it was definitely 2).

And the PKGBUILD in ABS was for thunderbird-3.x


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#8 2009-12-18 20:14:42

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman and ABS sync give different results

jasonwryan wrote:

It was: thunderbird-2.x.x (not at work at the moment so can't be sure of the exact version, but it was definitely 2).

And the PKGBUILD in ABS was for thunderbird-3.x

check how much out of date is your mirror: https://users.archlinux.de/~gerbra/mirrorcheck.html


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#9 2009-12-18 21:12:11

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman and ABS sync give different results

The mirror (http://mirror.ihug.co.nz/archlinux) isn't listed on the ~gebra page. In any event, how would it be possible for ABS to be up-to-date but a -Syyu return older packages? That is what I am confused by...


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#10 2009-12-18 21:24:31

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman and ABS sync give different results

My abs.conf (which I have not changed) has this:

# Server to sync from
# 
SYNCSERVER="rsync.archlinux.org"

So I assume it uses this as opposed to what's in the pacman mirrorlist, hence the potential difference.


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#11 2009-12-18 21:35:39

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman and ABS sync give different results

jasonwryan wrote:

The mirror (http://mirror.ihug.co.nz/archlinux) isn't listed on the ~gebra page. In any event, how would it be possible for ABS to be up-to-date but a -Syyu return older packages? That is what I am confused by...

i don't see it to be an official mirror. change it


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#12 2009-12-18 21:41:01

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman and ABS sync give different results

Thanks Loafer: I hadn't realized that the PKGBUILDs were synced for a different server. D'oh!

@ wonder: My problem is I can't change to another mirror - not unless I want to try and maintain 2 Arch machines with only 30 K/s access to mirrors...

I'll mark this as solved: I had (naively) assumed that ABS was synced from the pacman.d/mirrorlist.


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