xorg moving away from HAL and using device-kit ?

venky80 · 2009-12-20 22:47:49

I was reading this http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=n … &px=Nzc2Mw
what does this mean for Arch?

wonder · 2009-12-20 22:52:28

as always, arch is following upstream.

some-guy94 · 2009-12-21 00:05:29

X is actually going to be using udev for replacing HAL. The device-kit authors don't think that a input layer is needed.

Also devicekit-disks was renamed to udisks and devicekit-power was renamed to upower

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venky80 · 2009-12-21 00:20:33

so does this mean HAL will cease to exist after a while?

falconindy · 2009-12-21 00:41:47

HAL has been deprecated for about a year now, and "some" Linux distros appear to be moving away from it. Given enough time, it should disappear, but that also means getting software authors to rewrite their code to not rely on HAL.

leeyee · 2009-12-21 01:38:13

In the near future we may need to modify *.rules rather than *.fdi to regulate our hardware, although I dislike them both.

venky80 · 2009-12-21 09:47:13

fedora 13 will have no HAL?

Gusar · 2009-12-21 11:10:51

venky80 wrote:

fedora 13 will have no HAL?

No idea about Fedora, but I do know that the next Ubuntu will be without hal.

qubit · 2009-12-22 00:31:22

venky80 wrote:

fedora 13 will have no HAL?

HAL Removal

flamelab · 2009-12-22 00:36:55

venky80 wrote:

fedora 13 will have no HAL?

It is needed by many applications and DEs. GNOME and KDE are Udisks-Upower aware (KDE 4.4 and the current GNOME), but I'm not really sure about their stability or/and reliability or the level of HAL deprecation.

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leeyee · 2009-12-22 01:57:18

The part I am concerning about are other functionalities of HAL, other than removable disks and power management. For example, will the successor merge device information efficiently like HAL does? It seems that using libudev directly needs a lot of modifications to current codes, I do worry about their quality.

jolinfire · 2009-12-30 15:50:35

Killing hal seems weird to me. But I trust arch developers to do a great job.

ngoonee · 2009-12-31 01:16:52

jolinfire wrote:

Killing hal seems weird to me. But I trust arch developers to do a great job.

"Their job" has nothing to do with killing hal.

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